Why , if we value the spacing so much , have we not encouraged Hartenstein to shoot 3’s?

Sorry for the long title , hopefully you can read the whole thing after opening the thread.

Now let’s get to the question . It makes sense right ? Why if we value this spacing so much , have we not tried Hartenstein on the outside.... like at all.

Here comes the obvious - he can’t make them ... but is this true ?

His percentage hasn’t been great . I’ll give you that . But , didn’t he knock down 10/11 or something like that in a G-league finals game ? Doesn’t that show if he’s prepared and focused he can do the job ?

Yes his g league stats this year aren’t great 28 percent on 3 attempts per game . BUT , that’s a 6 game sample size and how many of those games do we think came consecutively? We were sending him up and down up and down . Not to mention , he was like a primary player so he had a full plate.

Hartenstein isn’t even particularly good at being a pick and roll big guy . He sets big screens . But he doesn’t have great hands or power around the rim, why are we putting him in THAT role , vs one that we appear to favor anyways ?

Maybe MDA has never had a big guy that can shoot ? He thinks if you’re over 6’8” that all you can do is run and dunk .

So in essence , not only is MDA not playing Hartenstein ... when he does play him , he’s using him wrong .

Sorry , I wanted to rant about something other than Tilman . MDA is always my favorite target.

Here’s to hoping MDA decides to flip a coin and let Hartenstein try to shoot some 3’s to see if he will ever play him again

 

Uh we do .

We’ve Encouraged guys like Corey brewer and josh smith to shoot. More recently we had WB taking 3’s earlier in the year and Gary Clark’s only role in our offense was to try to make a shot.

I’m arguing there’s not enough data to determine that Hartenstein is a BAD shooter. Especially when the alternative offense for him was not effective since he lacks good hands and power.

If that’s where we see value ... why are we trying to develop him as a big guy that rolls to the rim vs one that can shoot ?

His in game reps are trying to make him into something we inherently value less . It’s stupid .

 

MDA didn’t have josh Smith , but he did have brewer and brewer still jacked up a couple of 3’s a game.

I’m just bugged we don’t even try it . It’s always been our philosophy that an open 3 is a good shot.

He’s had evidence that he can have a good game in an important setting and he’s also had poor games . So what ! We had Farried trying a 3 a game last year .

 

Sure . But Farried was also pretty productive around the rim. So we would be giving up production for him (a bad shooter) to shoot 3’s . Yet we still did it a couple of times .

But with Hartenstein what are we giving up ? A PnR where he bobbles the ball and puts up a rushed layup ? That’s what will happen if the other team plays good defense .

Hartenstein should be getting at least 1 attempt every time he plays . If the defense leaves him open he gets to attempt a wide open 3 , if they cover him then there’s more space !!

 

It came from here

 

Sure but my point was about offense.

There’s some limited evidence from last season that our defense was good with Hartenstein on the floor .

Everything is small sample size at this point . Even the 30 percent you are talking about .

Is Hartenstein good defensively , no ? Is he such a liability that we should continue to run Pj into the ground ? I don’t think so . He’s a role player , if MDA has been willing to give him 20+ minutes in a game why can’t he get a consistent 10 to help rest PJ ?

He’s not gonna be the reason we lose games . Normally we win or lose based off how many 3 pointers we make anyways. I’m suggesting we let him take 1 or 2 instead of trying to force him to play like Capela .

That is , if we are going to play him.