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Trump's coronavirus response

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Two Sandwiches, Mar 13, 2020.

  1. RayRay10

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    I always wondered why this wasn't done...made too much sense...now I know:

     
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    Guys please enlighten me...why is it so hard for some Americans (including trump)to accept masks? It’s not a big investment, nearly all health experts from the CDC to The WHO have recommended it, and proven to be effective, why are people still rejecting it? As a non American I just don’t get it
     
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    Here's a good read on that subject:

    https://www.alternet.org/2020/09/ma...e-their-leader-has-given-their-lives-meaning/

    ‘Mass delusion’: Why Trump’s followers believe their leader has given their lives meaning

    Lot more about at the link above
     
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    My belief is that it goes to the top. By accepting masks that means it is actually a serious issue. If it's actually a serious issue then that means Trump dropped the ball and failed in his response to a serious issue. So Trump continues to pretend it isn't serious and is a hoax. His core believe it, and plus it is annoying to wear one and so many people just aren't willing and are more likely to accept the bogus rationale that it is un-American or political.

    For some they are under the mistaken impression that we can get back to our normal economy without first dealing with the Covid-19 pandemic which they may believe is either not real or mostly fake. They want to get back to normal business and activities. Of course in reality the pandemic has to be dealt with first.

    I wish folks would bite the bullet, make the sacrifice for 8-12 weeks, and then we can start opening up again.

    That's the simplified version.
     
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    What a great plan. :(
     
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    I believe South Korea did something like this - sending mask, sanitizer and other things to all resident and visitors to reduce spreading of covid19.
     
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    Just a personal opinion:

    It's inconvenient as it requires developing new habits and poses limitations on social interactions that provide us all with the much needed reprieve from dullness of life. Also, our dear leader made it into a political issue (because it was beneficial to his reelection chances to pretend like things are great) and we are deeply divided politically, so it is now a political statement too.

    Trump knew that the disease is deadly and airborne in early February (thanks Woodward!) and we all (US citizens) suspected as much based Chinese response in Wuhan. Masks were the obvious solution but we are a herd and rely on our government to do the thinking for us and the government felt like losing a few hundred thousand people was an acceptable price to pay for a semblance of normalcy and (rightly) assumed that Americans will overlook the risks and keep on working thereby not totally screwing the economy.

    Now the interesting question is, was that the right political/economical calculation? At least judging by the Dow Jones levels, it was pretty solid. Trump literally, tested his hypothesis of shooting a person in the middle of the street and keeping his political base intact despite it. So it was solid politically too. I mean how else can he still have support in Florida where retirees make up a whole lot of voters and they were the prime target of covid19 fatalities.

    On a side note, have they done a study to figure out how many lives Trump has potentially saved by his (very porous and xenophobically motivated) Chinese travel ban? Can we give the man some objective credit here?
     
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    Here's another question...what's the difference between "panic" and "preparation"?

    Early on, we had tp hoarders and costco lines. That could be considered panicking, and honestly I don't know if it were justified when all's said and done. It did allow people to stay indoors and not get infected, but who really knows how the supply chain side was affected versus all of the quarantine that was happening.

    Would sending 5 masks be a signal, "you're all ****ed, horde more now!"

    Apparently POTUS has demagogue powers to compel people to drink bleach or arm yourself to the teeth, caravan across state lines, and murder defend random white people's property.

    Thank Jared, our Lard n Savory, those powers are used responsibly and is in safe dementia free hands! No panic there!
     
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    No, it probably wouldn't, however, it wouldn't jive with what the president was saying in regards to the coronavirus going away early on. Therefore, screw everyone and screw preparation, Trump had spoken and the virus would listen to him (narrator: it did not).

    Another question...once things started spiraling downward...why not send the masks then? Why not send them now? Does he see it as an admission that he made it a mistake? (I know the answer to this one) Are our lives so meaningless that he's willing to sacrifice all of us because he doesn't want to admit he's wrong?
     
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    I'll give Donny credit for understanding base political instincts better than most "expert analyst" commentators. The admin coalesced no masking resentments into a political symbol, like wearing a ******* yellow ribbon or suv sticker. All their shitty photo op visits months ago were without masks despite being continuously called out for it and them knowing clearly how effective masks could be.

    Even with insurmountable facts, both scientific and statistical (countries w/ and w/o them), it's become "belief" or Dub****'s infamous "rule by gut feelins".

    So no, we aint getting any free Obama-Who-Shoulda-Did-Betta-At-Rona Masks because it's unconstitutional to force that oppression upon Free Thinkin Americans!

    Even when his admission is by tape, POTUS is arguing that Woody should've released his admission earlier...so that he could've spin some other lie and do jack **** about it like he's doing now.

    If Biden is elected, these no maskers are going to stage idiotic events like burning them. It's not Trump's fault anymore. Fat ass waddles away to the golf course denying any responsibility for the fire he helped started while the Antebellum Maggots happily and proudly accept blame as their badges of honor.
     
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    Included are 5 reusable masks from your government (maybe personally signed by the POTUS for special effect). Use it to help protect you and others. Your action can reduce the spread and help get us back to normal.

    Included are 5 reusable masks from the government. Use it or we all die.

    It’s just the flu and just going to vanish.
     
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    Yeah but this was April - they could have easily used their Fox News masters to send everybody another way, like "anti lockdown, pro mask" - half the milita boogaloo incels wear masks anyway. There was time for them to start a culture war without choosing the worst possible side on a public health level. But, you know, they're ****ing dumb and ruled by an idiot, so there's that.

    if there's anything that authoritarian regimes are able to do at all, it's convince their followers to take inconsistent positions for the regime's benefit (Oceania at war with Eastasia/Eurasia)
     
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    they should have sent pom poms instead
     
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    murderous instincts
     
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    There was already a local stigma against wearing surgical masks as a thing Asians do (also totally ok to harass or assault against that behavior) and since this is the Kung Flu, then it's their **** to handle.

    Someone posted a video of dudes walking around handing free masks and one refused because "I'm from here".

    Just one of many resentments that uhh "coalesced".
     
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    Trump's Coronavirus Plan
     
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    Did he say Turd Mentality, and he wants Americans to develop one?
     
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