1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Terrorist attack in Utrecht

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by HTM, Mar 18, 2019.

  1. HTM

    HTM Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    6,490
    Likes Received:
    4,714
    #1 HTM, Mar 18, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2019
  2. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    34,114
    Likes Received:
    13,515
    Revenge shooting for Christchurch?
     
  3. HTM

    HTM Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    6,490
    Likes Received:
    4,714
    Dunno, maybe, we don't know yet but supposedly Christchurch was partially motivated by revenge for recent ISIS/Islamic extremist attacks in Europe.
     
  4. Cohete Rojo

    Cohete Rojo Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Messages:
    10,344
    Likes Received:
    1,203
    Another “nothing to do with Islam” attack?
     
    mick fry and BruceAndre like this.
  5. arno_ed

    arno_ed Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    7,935
    Likes Received:
    1,933
    Yeah this is close to home.

    Officially they have not ruled out terrorist motives. However The rumors I have heard so far seem to suggest that is might just be a nutcase, and not an Ideology motivated nutcase. It appears that he has had some run in with the police (both with attempt rape and also gun related). This is not official at all, but it is the theories by some reporters who were at the scene the whole day (and talked about it on dutch Radio).

    We will see what actually happened when he is caught.
     
  6. edwardc

    edwardc Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2003
    Messages:
    9,494
    Likes Received:
    7,649
    Yep it's going to be a hard go the police .
     
  7. pirc1

    pirc1 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2002
    Messages:
    13,971
    Likes Received:
    1,701
    Is it easy to get guns in Netherlands?
     
  8. dachuda86

    dachuda86 Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2008
    Messages:
    16,308
    Likes Received:
    3,580
    So many quiet people.... Sweet Lou and Comets are figuring out how to blame Trump and all the racists for this one. Can't wait to see what our experts come up with.
     
    mick fry likes this.
  9. arno_ed

    arno_ed Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    7,935
    Likes Received:
    1,933
    They caught him. Soon we will know his motives.
     
    B-Bob likes this.
  10. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    34,114
    Likes Received:
    13,515
    There isn't much information to inform commentary at this point.
     
    joshuaao and JayGoogle like this.
  11. BruceAndre

    BruceAndre Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2009
    Messages:
    2,289
    Likes Received:
    800
    More "cultural enrichment" via diversity.
     
  12. Ottomaton

    Ottomaton Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2000
    Messages:
    18,267
    Likes Received:
    13,518
    No, unless you are talking about antique black powder guns (I exported a ridiculously huge Starr Civil War revolver to a guy in the Netherlands once).
     
    Os Trigonum likes this.
  13. HTM

    HTM Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    6,490
    Likes Received:
    4,714
    Some interesting quotes:

    A local businessman told BBC Turkish that Gokmen Tanis had previously fought in Russia's republic of Chechnya.

    Jihadist groups, including those aligned with the Islamic State (IS) group, have long operated in the region.

    "He was arrested because of his connections with [IS] but released later," the businessman told the BBC.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47615231


    (not enough to draw any conclusions but at least some indications in the direction this maybe going)
     
    #13 HTM, Mar 18, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2019
  14. arno_ed

    arno_ed Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    7,935
    Likes Received:
    1,933
    This has not been reported in the Dutch media at all. So I doubt this is true. He was involved/suspected in another shooting, attempted rape and theft. But we will find out soon what his motives were. Today there will be no more information released.
     
  15. HTM

    HTM Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    6,490
    Likes Received:
    4,714
    True, just pointing out what I've been reading.

    No reason to doubt the BBC. Though they may have been provided with incorrect information.
     
  16. dachuda86

    dachuda86 Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2008
    Messages:
    16,308
    Likes Received:
    3,580
    The left is quiet because they want to still keep focus on the white guy who killed Muslims because they don't get this "seee I told youuuu" chance nearly as often as they wish.
     
    BruceAndre likes this.
  17. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    37,717
    Likes Received:
    18,918
    Not sure this is yet a terrorist attack. What I read was that he shot at a relative of his and those who tried to help her.

    Nevertheless, all terrorism should be condemned and all extremists need to be seen as an enemy of the public good. ISIS is an enemy of not just the west but of Muslims as well. And it's a shame that people on here refuse to acknowledge extremists such as White Supremacists as a problem.
     
    JayGoogle and vlaurelio like this.
  18. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    21,310
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    ISIS terrorists = White Supermacists terrorists
     
    Sweet Lou 4 2 likes this.
  19. arno_ed

    arno_ed Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    7,935
    Likes Received:
    1,933
    Yeah I have no idea. If the BBC info is correct why did the Dutch media not report on it.

    On the Other hand the anti muslim party PVV asked for a debate on this saying they wanted the Dutch people to know the truth. Maybe that is based on the BBC info/report.

    I also heard reports that were similar to what sweet lou posted. I hope that is the case a personal killing will have less of an effect on Dutch life.

    But so far we are responding to reports/rumours. So nobody knows what his motives are.
     
  20. Jump Ship

    Jump Ship Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2018
    Messages:
    780
    Likes Received:
    396
    People did not act like the way you are acting in that thread. Go read it. You are making things up.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now