1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Targeting a quality, young, defensive C

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, Dec 30, 2010.

  1. Hakeemtheking

    Hakeemtheking Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    Messages:
    9,191
    Likes Received:
    6,057

    Good Post. I have been advocating for Okafor for at least 2 years.
     
  2. MourningWood

    MourningWood Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2009
    Messages:
    5,096
    Likes Received:
    658
    He's untouchable at this point.

    Brooks + Patterson + Battier + pick for Cousins + Casspi.
     
  3. CXbby

    CXbby Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2002
    Messages:
    8,701
    Likes Received:
    10,685
    As far as the age limit, I think as long as his timeframe is in line with our core players- Scola, Martin, Lowry, Brooks- it should be fine. I agree that someone like Camby is too much of a band aid, but anyone below 29 should do. With that said I like:

    D. Cousins- franchise player potential, but probably most difficult to acquire
    Marc Gasol- great passer, fits Adelman offense perfectly, hard to acquire
    A. Varejao- great fit, one of the biggest impact on my list, easily obtainable
    Nene- consistently great +/-, potentially available
    Emeka Okafur- great defense, worst contract on my list
    Marcin Gortat- older player who is not as proven, uncertain availability

    In that order.

    While looking at their defensive rating is a GREAT idea, because along with rebounding that is our biggest weakness. However, I don't think we should completely ignore how they might fit within the offense. Adelman's offensive system really requires all 5 players to work in unison. As much flack as Chuck Hayes gets for his lack of offense, he fits in very well as a high post passer.

    I bring this up because certain players that others have brought up, namely Javale Mcgee and DeAndre Jordan... well... just imagining them in the high post running Adelman's sets make me want to scratch my eyes out. My point is along with defensive rating, maybe a minimum IQ should be required as well.

    As far as guys like Whitesides and Thabeet, maybe actually knowing how to play basketball, just a little, should be a requirement too.

    Great thread anyways.
     
    1 person likes this.
  4. akiracy

    akiracy Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    419
    Likes Received:
    38
    Ibaka is untouchable but Cousins isn't?
     
  5. gah

    gah Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    2,474
    Likes Received:
    142
    Nice breakdown. I agree, we need players for the future but who can step up right away too.

    Regarding young players with no experience in running the high post I guess Adelman should be willing to sacrifice that part if they excel at our current needs. Stated, basic principles of his philosophy are making the most of what you’ve got and playing to your player’s strength, I am sure he should be happy figuring out what to do with a player like McGee.
     
  6. ryl

    ryl Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2009
    Messages:
    70
    Likes Received:
    29
    that chart reminds me of marketing class
     
  7. RV6

    RV6 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    25,522
    Likes Received:
    1,109
    Ekpe Udoh
     
  8. Prince

    Prince Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2009
    Messages:
    5,375
    Likes Received:
    161
    We need a center with a passion for shotblocking...
     
  9. RV6

    RV6 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    25,522
    Likes Received:
    1,109
  10. somenobody

    somenobody Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    276
    Likes Received:
    6
    It seems like no teams will give up any big men in the league. A decent center is like giant pandas right now. I know the Andersen experiment failed. But I still wondering if there are any chances that we can get one from Europe just like how we acquired Scola.

     
  11. robbie380

    robbie380 ლ(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ლ)
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    23,209
    Likes Received:
    9,527
    I dunno....Maybe I am not being homer enough, but I still think Hill for McGee is a great trade for the Rockets if the Wiz would accept it. I got shot down in another thread when I suggested it.

    Someone explain to me why I'm so off base.
     
  12. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    12,575
    Likes Received:
    8,198
    Anthony Randoplh would fit the criteria.
     
  13. TheGoldenGreek

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2010
    Messages:
    470
    Likes Received:
    78
    I really like JaVale McGee. Not only does he fill the need but I don't think we'd have to sell the farm to get him. His value seems to be kind of low right now because the Wizards want to get rid of him or Blatche. Deandre Jordan would also be nice.
     
  14. BetterThanEver

    BetterThanEver Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    9,931
    Likes Received:
    189
    McGee and Blatche got in a fight outside a club. The Wizards are dumping Blatche, because they value McGee highly.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/29/AR2010122904480.html

     
  15. BetterThanEver

    BetterThanEver Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    9,931
    Likes Received:
    189
    see above post.
     
  16. Sydeffect

    Sydeffect Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2010
    Messages:
    5,919
    Likes Received:
    440
    DeAndre Jordan for sure. he is raw as hell. In yesterdays game against the Jazz dude got 14 points, 7 blocks, 5 rebounds
     
  17. gah

    gah Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    2,474
    Likes Received:
    142
    You're not alone, although the Wizards seem to value him just as we do.
     
  18. Dreamin

    Dreamin Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2010
    Messages:
    5,603
    Likes Received:
    63
    Ive been following him in D-League as well. The dude is beasting. He is the best big in d-league for sure. Buthe averages 5 fouls per game.
     
  19. robbie380

    robbie380 ლ(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ლ)
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    23,209
    Likes Received:
    9,527
    I got conflicting stuff from that article. That's perfectly understandable if they don't want to give up McGee, but it makes it sound like they feel it would be hard to match salaries or something.

    I'll hold out hope since Martin wasn't "very available" either. :cool:
     
  20. Dreamin

    Dreamin Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2010
    Messages:
    5,603
    Likes Received:
    63
    Oakafor is NBA all defensive team material, but his contract is hidious. He is type of guy we would want if we wanted to win now. And McGee is one of guys with low IQ and has too many mental switch offs as well. Dude is extremely atheletic though. He is to take if we wanna rebuild and go young.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now