[ruh-oh] Restaurateur Tilman Fertitta Desperately Seeks Cash Infusion For His Hospitality Empire

TILMAN to GOV: WE must open everything up ASAP!!!

He's probably talking to the Chicago mob to force the Nevada Gov to open up the Casino ASAP.

 

He's good at losing money not making it, get someone who went to a real university. NEXT

 

Probably, but in all honesty, would that be just like sports stadiums? Large Social Gathering, etc etc. I'm not sure opening up casinos, but dramatically limiting the number of people, helps him much.

Would be an interesting social experiment, much like stadiums might be. If they were to open up stadiums, would you go? I wonder how widespread initial attendance might be. I think a lot of people might make business decisions (hey, just like the athletes! rightbackatcha!) 'Hey, I really like my sports, but I'm not risking my life to watch a game'. Would the same apply to gambling? Or would it be different? I haven't been to Vegas in years...its just entertainment to me...and I suspect to most who go. I could see attendance there being down for a while, even once they do open.

 

I definitely would no go spending my hard earned money and taking of risk of dying in a Casino and Stadium, but I'm sure there are die hard that don't care about dying or think this virus is just like the flu.

I would imagine Governors in most state would limit the # of people allowed inside in a Casino, Stadiums, Restaurant...so in summary, TILMAN is screwed even when economy is opened back up again

 

Ok, I'll bite. Why not? Sure, we as fans think of it different...but isn't it really just a business, like any other?

If you make your customers very unhappy, you won't make a lot of money. There is a limited supply of people that continue to

More likely, you would quickly stop going, and find somewhere else to eat.

And.....those customers have not just a right, but almost an obligation, to go elsewhere. If you continue to support a team you don't like...you're just propagating what you don't like. Yes, a higher degree of loyalty...but that is something fans need to think about. Also, as baseball found out years ago...once that loyal fan base does finally lose their patience, it takes years, if ever, for them to come back. Baseball was America's Game...and it fell behind hockey and NASCAR, for a long time. There have been restaurants that had similar loyalty, but gradually let their quality slip. They remained in business a while longer, but most of them eventually closed up.

This is even more applicable in today's media age. You can follow any team you want, from anywhere on earth. You're not stuck with whatever crap the local team throws out there. Yes, it's nice to support your local team...but not if they just throw crap out there year after year. Unless you just like the cult of that (Cubs/Clippers)...but then that's the consumer's choice, if they do so for that reason.

 

Yep, I think that's the correct summary.

I had posted the comparison to Tom Hicks, but it seems to have been lost. He had to sell all his sports franchises when his core business turned south.

 

What's he gonna do, yell out 'Don't do what I did' a whole bunch?

 

It all boils down to my last paragraph. Sports fandom is very much different from the usually business customers. Are you really serious that loyal fans would and should just switch to another team because they are unhappy with the product? Look at the people on this site. They have been complaining and suffering for so long and they are still here, and we take pride in it. Look at the Knicks fans. They have arguably the worst sports owner and the team is still making money. Look at the Sac Kings. They are one of the worst teams since they moved to Sacramental except for a few years under Adelman. Look at the Clippers before Ballmer took over. They had been the laughing stock of the NBA for decades. Fans that only support the team during good times are called "fair weather fans" or "frontrunners" and some other derogatory names.

Those terrible owners are exploiting sports fan psychology, much like tobacco companies exploiting the addictive nature of their products. Their customers can't leave their business without suffering traumatic loss. These owners deserve to be hated and would serve the league well if they were kicked out of the business.

 

Seems to me there would be better options than a guy who fired everybody , which meant losing HC coverage and going to UE.

Not only that , he's a prime example of over doing things - over extending everything to expand.

Tuck Filman.

 

If the mob gets them open i'm on the first plane

 

But you already risk your life to go to a game

I know people do not like the comparisons, but car accidents cause about 40K deaths per year in the US, so while that might not end up being as many as die from Covid in the US this year, it's likely in the ballpark. Now i'm not sure how old you are, but if you are under 65 and do not have serious underlying conditions, your chances of dying in a car accident are way higher than your chances of dying from Covid

Again, I know a lot of people hate comparisons like that, but those are just facts.

When games start being played and allow fans, i'll go. I'll keep hand sanitizer, won't high five everyone around me like I used to, will take some precautions, but i'll go. Same with Casinos, wish I could go to one right now, but unfortunately the government isn't allowing us to make those decisions for ourselves right now.

 

His hotels and casinos won't be popping for a while. He is in big trouble even after they "re-open" the economy. Or maybe not.. some still believe that this is a hoax and overblown so maybe they'll be supporting him.

 

Fans need to be patient.

It’s highly likely Tilman has no budget for Tucker and Gordon salary next season.

Next season, His budget is 120.3 million, the average of this season 30 teams salary.

Morey has a good vision, trade into a First.

 

Not for this thread, but there's lots of reasons why this and other such comparisons aren't that helpful.

The reason the models swing widely from some relatively low thousands number of deaths to hundreds of thousands or millions is because of the social distancing.

It's a strange phenomenon that seems to speak to lack of ability to reason... "there will be so so many deaths, we have to social distance to keep the deaths down." then we social distance and keep the deaths down... "well, I guess they overestimated it :shrug time to open this sucker back up!!"

It's all the more confusing cause its simple math and science. it's a virus, that infects a lot of people, that has exponential growth potential, that causes y% of deaths and z% of serious hospitalizations. if it still exists in decent numbers out there and things open up again, you will get another wave of problems, with some new hotspots. if there are meds to control, a vaccine, or really low numbers with amazing testing and tracing capabilities, you can open up.

One can certainly make the argument or case to open up anyway, cause you can only do this so long (though it's super ... sad?? ... that for America in 2020 that so long is basically a month), or the argument that managing waves of crisis is the best we can do, or to do limited opening up until meds/vaccine is found.

I don't know the right answer for everyone. All I do know is those that are "in charge" and close to scientists and info/data that is most current and accurate, have a duty to fully and transparently communicate that info to the public and make decisions in the best interest of the public at large and not themselves....

And that last point is what is salient to this thread. There's negative a million percent chance Tilman's input on any kind of advisory board will factor in the public at large. It will solely focus on how to best kickstart the economy to save his pocket book. And that's not just a "what do you expect, he's uniquely f'd by this particular recession" commentary. That's kind of true... BUT... this is part and parcel to Tilman's nature anyway, as anyone who has worked with him on anything ever can tell you.

 

Driving or transportation by vehicles is essential to living for the vast majority of people. Going to watch a game in a stadium is not.

If you are going to compare the risks, you have to compare the benefits too.

 

Blergh blergh I'm just a normal blergh. Blergh compared to blergh is blergh. So blergh. Period!

- a great take on Epidemiology. Did you study at UTHSC or Hopkins?

 

He did not went to John Hopskins but he did go to the Billy O' Brien Brian Dead Universityr of Trading Hopskins for Horrible "Very Very Very Bad and very Very Powerful(in the PTOUSA voice) school of DUMBASS

 

Dude, 35,000 people have died in America after a *four week national lockdown.* It's not just about your rights, you know.