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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, May 17, 2017.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
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    A necessary move to restore some trust.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Guys

    Nothing is coming of this but embarrassment for liberals.

    It's just like Vince Foster

    This story is a year old and the only significant news so far is the recent news about Trump and Comey
     
  3. Cohete Rojo

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    I have no problem with this move, nor do I have a problem with a special investigation into Russia's (or whoever's) role in the DNC campaign hack.
     
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    I am glad this has happened. I hope he includes the unmasking of names in his investigation and the Hillary email scandal as well since they have all been linked to the Russian issue. I also hope justice is served on all counts. If Trump, Hillary, or anyone in the Obama administration did something wrong they should answer for it
     
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    As a former FBI Director, Mueller is likely not happy with his agency and our country being damaged by the buffoon-in-chief. He will get to the truth.

    We will probably refer to this in history as Rosentein's Revenge.
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    What truth do you seriously think is out there

    You wanna criticize stuff like the wall and travel bans. That's totally reasonable

    This Russian story is going nowhere

    Trump didn't spend the time or effort or most importantly his OWN MONEY to run for president to get a break on a Russian bank loan

    Everyone needs to move forward. This guy is gonna finish his term barring health issues
     
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  7. KingCheetah

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    This is precisely the reason a special counsel was appointed.
     
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  8. Major

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    I don't think you understand what is being suggested. Trump, if he's directly in trouble, probably gets stuck in an obstruction of justice issue - like with Nixon, the issue was the coverup rather than the original crime itself. Trump associates may get sucked up into it all independently - some of them may have been involved with Russia without Trump's knowledge. And then there's just the larger issue of Trump's credibility - his constant defense of Russia and Putin, his insistence that they weren't involved, etc. The criminal part there is independent of the Trump admin, but still affects his Presidency. Impeachment is not the only relevant outcome here.

    It's weird that you would be opposed to uncovering if and how Russia impacted US elections, and whether they had any influence within a Presidential campaign or administration.
     
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  9. DonnyMost

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    This Rosenstein cat just saved the Republican party from a very grizzly death.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    Obstruction of justice is exactly what Clinton was guilty of, and that wasn't enough to matter. Unless some actual proof comes out, a "he said, she said" situation isn't sufficient to even pursue impeachment. Unless something major changes this will boil down to nothing more than political theater.
     
  11. A_3PO

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    I suggest you speak with John McCain, who said "I think it's reaching the point where it's of Watergate size and scale".

    I guess you know more than he does.

    The investigation will move forward and we'll see what turns up. I don't think you know as much as you think you do about this. Wait for the facts.
     
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  12. Major

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    Yes, as was Nixon. This is not a one-size-fits-all thing. What is enough will depend on the specifics.

    No ****. That's what the investigation is for.
     
  13. gifford1967

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    Okay Brainiac. Why don't you post the same obvious point another 80 or 90 times because nobody will get it the first 10 or 20.
     
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  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    This will lead down a myriad of rabbit holes, Trump will resign before it finalizes.

    DD
     
  15. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    If y'all think Comey's handwritten memos gon hold up in a court of law I would suggest you change your assumption

    It's his own memo

    A post it note
     
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    This story on an actual evidence front is still he said she said innuendo
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Yes, there is precedent on handwritten memos from law enforcement - I can't believe you like Trump, a noted racist.

    DD
     
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  18. Bobbythegreat

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    Clearly people don't get it given that they are still acting like this whole thing is a big deal. Right now it's just political theater with no real evidence whatsoever.
     
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    Breitbart's headline right now-

    You seriously can't make this sh#$ up. And we wonder why people come on threads like this like they are living on a different planet. Its because they are dealing with an alternate reality and are being lied to. Propaganda that has infiltrated our mainstream media is downright dangerous, and something we thought could never succeed in the age of the internet where you have a super computer in the palm of your hand at all times.
     
  20. dobro1229

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    Ask any lawyer. Even the word of an FBI agent is considered prosecutable evidence in the court of law. You can look that one up if you want, or just believe what you want.

    The memo's are just a reference to Comey's statements. Trump was dumb enough to think that if he removed the witnesses (Session/Rodenstein) from the room that he could say whatever he wanted, but he obviously didn't know the laws as well as he should.

    Of course Comey's testimony doesn't have to incriminate Trump. Comey is an attorney too, and if he believes Trumps verbiage didn't constitute as obstruction of the investigation then he could very well come out and say that no it didn't obstruct the investigation.

    HOWEVER, when Trump fired Comey later on a few days later, that could be considered by the grand jury (if the prosecutor takes it that far) as the circumstance that ultimately concluded the Presidents actions as purposefully obstructing the investigation.

    I hate to be the wet blanket here and not offer a hot take opinion but the reality is we just have to wait and see.
     
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