Much of Trump immigration plan not 'radical' in GOP circles Alan Gomez, USA TODAY 4:33 p.m. EDT August 18, 2015 Despite criticism from some GOP presidential contenders this week of Donald Trump's immigration plan, the six-page proposal is actually a collection of what many Republicans have already been pushing on the campaign trail. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...igration-plan-republican-candidates/31882641/ ***** Trump (and I do find him very watchable and entertaining-- my first reality show) is leading the GOP to losing the next election even more big time. Even Jeb with the Mexican wife will not be able to fully recover as they all have to play to the nativist base. The GOP will try like hell to suppress the Latino vote, naturally, along with the youth vote and the poor and African American vote, but it won't be enough.
Isn't it cute how republicans are for the constitution until they are against it? Calling for the repeal of the 14th amendment will be the nail in the coffin for the GOP.
So in your mind, policies that are anti-illegal immigrant are "telling Latinos to F off"? I'm by no means a fan of Trump, but if you view all Latinos as illegal immigrants, you might be worse than he is.
What's the issue here - more tariffs on Mexican imports? I thought Democrats were all about not sending jobs overseas and Republicans were all about "free" trade.
The party positions aren't as cut and dried as that. Many Democrats are pro-trade and CAFTA has been a key issue to the Obama Admin. even while many Democrats oppose it. At the same time many Republicans like Rick Santorum have opposed increased trade and proposed protectionist policies.
This is one area where I give JEB Bush a lot of credit. So far he has stuck to his position regarding immigration, both documented and undocumented, and has spoke out forcefully against Trump and others. This does cost him votes in the Republican base and if he continues to stick with his positions and loses the nomination I have no doubt that many will point to immigration as an issue that sunk his candidacy.
What he's saying is he thinks loyalty to race is more important to them than loyalty to country and the rule of law. I'm sure that comes as quite the surprise to many American Latino voters.
lol Since when have GOP conservative CEO's and bankers who ship jobs overseas and who break laws on Wall Street been into loyalty to country and the rule of law. Most Latinos, even if citizens, are only a generation or two from being immigrants and they don't like folks who are mean to their relatives and friends and recognize racists even when dog whistling.
If they are legitimate immigrants instead of illegal immigrants, then they should be the most annoyed by those who thought they didn't have to follow the rules. I'm not sure they'd think making others follow the rules like they had to would qualify as being "mean".
The rules and multi-year process can be fairly arduous and undone at every stage. Socially and economically legal and illegal immigrants of similar extraction can often be seen by local society through the same lense and be limited to the same opportunities and environments. In a nation of teenage binge drinkers, radar detectors, offshore and off-book special purpose entities, speakeasy poker games, weekend sports gambling and "recreational" drug users subsidizing an entire hemisphere's worth of ethnic gang violence and illicit trade, statutory compliance seems like an odd metric by which to gauge sub-cultural alignment and affinity.
You make a good point. Jeb Bush is the only GOP candidate with a legit shot at reversing the 71-25 pct drubbing of 4 years ago. If their nominee (which won't be Trump) wins by pandering to the anti-illegal anger swelling in their party, it could end up 80-20 or worse.
blacks should at least consider listen to voting conservative.. illegals are no friends of blacks, dont know how many times they will have to let us know this
There are tens of thousands of African-Americans who already do, but there isn't a single thing you've posted here that would actually explain or encourage it.
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You know we already had a "test trial" of sorts with tough anti immigration policies recently in Alabama and Georgia. When they were implemented, not all illegals fled the state, but many did. What was the result of all these newly available job opportunities for unemployed Americans? 100's of millions worth of dollars of crops died.
Frankly determined demonstrations in the streets and industrial strikes would be more productive. If you want jobs why not blame the billionaires, mostly GOPer's who shut down thousands of factories, send the jobs to folks who might be immigrants but work for 20 cents per hour. Those were good paying which they shipped them overseas. Or are you ok with sub-mimimum wage jobs (no doubt not for yourself) for poor whites and blacks (after you deport all the recent immigrants) that these mainly GOP corporate rulers would substitute. Basically you want to take the easy way out and suck up the billionaires and blame other workers of a different skin color. Ever heard of divide and conquer? I forget which one our famous historical billionaires it was who said: to the effect "I'm not worried about the working class. I can hire half of them to kill the other half.