Powell emails to Clinton regarding email released

I know that you don't really care about accuracy, you are only out to try to deflect for your party, but that's simply inaccurate. The law has nothing to do with intent....you probably know this but you feel like you have to ignore it because it's detrimental to your case.

 

If someone who is self-employed underreports their income by, let's say, $50,000, and the IRS is directed to an email between that person and their accounting firm that says, "Sorry, I misplaced that 1099 and forgot to include it on the 1040," that person will be responsible for paying the penalty as well as the money owed.

If someone who is self-employed underreports their income by, let's say, $50,000, and the IRS is directed to an email between that person and their accounting firm that says, "Yes, I know about that $50,000, I just didn't want to include it on my taxes so I shredded the 1099," that person will be most likely convicted of tax evasion as well as paying the money owed.

So, BTG, there are instances under the law in which intent is a criminal offense and not just the action itself, correct?

 

toe-may-toe tah-mah-toe

Clerical errors are not criminal. (taxes)

Tax evasion is. (again, taxes)

Intent is for the courts to decide.

InfoSec and taxes are completely different animals. With infosec, you can't claim "durrrr im a dumbass, i didn't know durrrrr".

If you don't know know better with InfoSec, you have no business handling it. This applies to Clinton.

 

I have never felt Hillary should be indicted. There has not been any proof she has intentionally compromised security. This is usually the 'intent' that triggers prosecution.

However there is a lot of evidence that she is incompetent and/or negligent to handle classified info.

 

Not every law is written the same, some laws require specific intent, others do not. When it comes to mishandling classified information, nefarious intent is not required because gross negligence is considered the same thing.

Pointing out other laws that require specific intent isn't making an argument about this specific case.

Read the specific statutes if you don't understand.

 

"almost always" is another way of saying "not always"

Again, read the statute for yourself and hopefully you'll see that gross negligence is the same thing as ill intent when it comes to mishandling classified information.

If you can't understand that, then you are truly a waste of time to ever respond to.

 

Your embarrassing failure to understand the statute in question doesn't make me a "partisan". Ironically you are doing mental gymnastics desperately trying to defend indefensible actions due to your partisanship. The "partisan" label simply doesn't apply to me given that I would vote for Hillary over Trump....but you haven't been right about anything lately, why would you start now?

 

LOL, whatever you say kiddo. The cycle of me destroying you in conversation while you fail to realize it just continues to repeat itself. One day you'll grow up little man.

 

Some of Powell's emails have been hacked.

No surprise that he thinks Trump is "a national disgrace."

 

i saw Still Dicking Bimbos open for Basket of Deplorables in '98.

Spoiler

 

Was the FBI Director deflecting for the other party.... Or is on the take.... Or is he scared the Clinton's will kill him...

The fact that the party that is trying so damn hard to pin something on Hillary can't do so is pretty damning....

But let's be honest, you don't care about facts just smearing Clinton. As of 9/14/16, only Trump has been found guilty of what the GOP has been trying to pin on Clinton.

 

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373.html

 

I feel bad for Powell's private emails getting leaked, but I can't say I'm not entertained...

Emails show Colin Powell unloading on Clinton, Rumsfeld and Trump

And former Vice President Dick Cheney should 'go away already,' Condoleezza Rice writes back in one leaked document.

By ERIC GELLER 09/14/16 01:14 PM EDT Updated 09/14/16 03:44 PM EDT

The newly leaked trove of Colin Powell’s emails offers a rare window into the former secretary of state’s unvarnished, at-times scathing thoughts on Hillary
Clinton, Donald Trump and old political adversaries who served with him in the George W. Bush administration.

In more than two years of conversations with former White House and State Department colleagues, Powell blasted Trump as "a national disgrace and an international pariah," lit into Clinton aides for their relentless efforts to link the two former secretaries' email practices and excoriated former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and his top deputy for trying to blame him for the Iraq debacle.

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Powell and Condoleezza Rice, who succeeded him at the State Department, also joked that Trump seemed in over his head in running for president.

“If Donald were to somehow win,” Powell wrote in a June 23 email to Rice, “by the end of the first week in office he'd be saying 'What the hell did I get myself into?’”

“I think his attention span may be waning because national campaigning is a lot harder than just showing up at rallies,” Rice said of Trump earlier in that conversation.

Powell also offered an acerbic — even crass — description of what he saw as Clinton's liabilities as a presidential candidate, along with tabloid rumors about former President Bill Clinton's personal life, in one July 2014 email exchange with New York financier Jeffrey Leeds.

"I would rather not have to vote for her, although she is a friend I respect," Powell wrote. "A 70-year person with a long track record, unbridled ambition, greedy, not transformational, with a husband still d---ing bimbos at home (according to the NYP)."
Clinton's campaign didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.
Powell in leaked email: 'I didn't tell Hillary to have a private server at home'
By ERIC GELLER
White House press secretary Josh Earnest declined to weigh in Wednesday when asked about another leaked email, in which Leeds opined to Powell that Clinton would "pummel" President Barack Obama's "legacy if she gets a chance."

"I'll let newsrooms across the country make their own coverage decisions about what they feel is appropriate for the American public to consider," Earnest told reporters. "But I'm not going to have any comments on the contents of a private email of a private citizen."

The emails show Powell corresponding with his inner circle, his team at a speakers bureau and interview-hungry journalists over a period of 26 months, from June 2014 to this past August. POLITICO reviewed the correspondence this week after being given access by DC Leaks, a purported anti-secrecy site that researchers have linked to the Russian hackers responsible for breaches at top Democratic organizations. A spokesperson for Powell told ABC News early Wednesday that the emails "are accurate."

DC Leaks did not explain how it had obtained the emails.

The leaked documents continued to cause buzz Wednesday, especially the ones showing Powell’s irritation with Clinton aides’ efforts to invoke his track record while defending her use of a private email server when she was secretary of state.

The Clinton campaign’s “email ploy this week didn't work and she once again looks shifty if not a liar,” Powell wrote on Aug. 20 to someone who worked with him in the White House. “Trump folks having fun with her.”

Not that he was a huge fan of The Donald, however. “Trump just looks stupid trying to appeal to blacks and Latinos,” Powell wrote to the former White House aide on Aug. 21.

Powell’s frustration with Clinton loyalists trying to draw him into her email controversy grew so great that when James Carville, a longtime friend of the Clintons, wrote a Sept. 10, 2015, column linking the two former secretaries' email habits, Powell unloaded on him.

“Dear James,” he wrote in a note intended for Carville, “you are the latest HRC acolyte trying to use me to cover her on the email caper. All these attempts and her dissembling has just made it Worse.”

“She now is apologizing,” Powell continued, adding that “suddenly you surface to throw another log on the fire.”

Powell and Rice also repeatedly and vividly criticized Rumsfeld, the chief steward of the Iraq War.
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“One day when we both have had too many drinks we can discuss why [President George W. Bush] tolerated him and why Dick [Cheney], a successful SecDef, was so committed to Don,” Powell wrote on Dec. 16. “I must say I gagged as [President George H.W. Bush] praised him as the ‘best’ at the statuary hall unveiling.”

Powell and Rice’s other targets included former Vice President Dick Cheney and Iraq War architect Paul Wolfowitz.

“Hee, hee, he won't,” Powell wrote to Rice on Nov. 26, after she said Cheney should “concentrate on quality time with his grandkids and let it go.” Powell had flagged a Fox News reporter’s interview with Cheney that delved into Iraq and other Bush-era controversies.

Rice told Powell that Cheney should “go away already!”

Powell called Wolfowitz, the deputy secretary of defense who spearheaded the Iraq invasion, “a f--king liar” after reading an interview in which Wolfowitz blamed Powell’s State Department for what many experts allege were the United States’ two largest post-invasion blunders: the disbanding of the Iraqi army and the decision to expel members of Saddam Hussein’s Baathist Party from the civilian government.

“Bremer worked for him,” Powell wrote to Lawrence Wilkerson, his former chief of staff, on Aug. 28, after Wilkerson flagged the interview for him. He was referring to Paul Bremer, who oversaw the post-invasion transitional government in Iraq. “It wasn't State, it was the President and the guy who reported to Paul.”

“This is the narrative in the Feith and Rummy books,” Powell said, referring to memoirs by Rumsfeld and Bush-era Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith. “No one has really fallen for it.”

The next day, in an email to Rice, Powell wrote that he would “never forget the lunch in your office when Don abdicated the position.” It’s not clear to what he was referring, but Powell added that Rumsfeld “should have been fired that afternoone [sic].”

Rumsfeld “got mad when I tried to pull his you know what out of the fire by sending [National Security Council Iraq specialist Robert] Blackwill out there,” Rice wrote, recalling the meeting. “And when you and I started to talk to [Bremer] directly.”

“Yep,” Powell responded, “remember his tantrum vividly.”

In their Dec. 16 exchange, Powell and Rice reflected on how their experience with intelligence agencies left them wary of blaming the Obama White House for its controversial early explanation of the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya.

“It is one reason I am not too tough on who said what to whom about Benghazi,” Rice wrote, referring to National Security Adviser Susan Rice blaming an Islamophobic YouTube video, rather than a terrorist plot, for the compound assault. The White House defended Susan Rice, saying she was relying on talking points based on early intelligence.

In her email to Powell, Condoleezza Rice wrote that “intel agencies know how to cover themselves and hang policy types (even POTUS) out to dry.”
Powell replied that the Benghazi investigation was “a stupid witch hunt” and said the “basic fault” for the attack “falls on a courageous ambassador who thought Libyans now love me and I am ok in this very vulnerable place.” He was apparently referring to Ambassador Chris Stevens, who was killed in the assault.

He added that he also blamed Stevens’ “leaders and supporters” in Washington, including the intelligence community, diplomatic security officials, Undersecretary of State for Management Patrick Kennedy “and yes, HRC.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/...s-clinton-trump-rumsfeld-228158#ixzz4KHaN8EqU

 

^ yea, I prefer private email stays private, but it's cool to get a view of their private thoughts.

 

Which only shows... you should never use email to communicate private, potentially controversial thoughts.