Every James Harden Midrange Jumper From The Start Of The 14-15 Season To Now

yeah, but it makes him less predictable and thus more efficient all around and harder to guard

 

actually you did some pretty wild hypothesizing yourself based on my post... theres noting in my post that remotely points to what you have inferred from it

basically what i have said is that shooting midrange in addition to 3s and layups makes him less predictable and thus more efficient all around because it makes other shots easier and more open and guarding harden more tiring and confusing for the defenders thus raising the efficiency of his other shots

its also well known fact that shooting easier shots first can help you with harder shots or when players go cold from distance due to lost legs or whatever

also at the end of the games or when having a huge lead you dont really need 3s ... you just need scoreboard to keep moving

 

When Harden was shooting the mid range he was LESS efficient. Fact.

When Harden stopped being so reliant on mid range, he became MORE efficient. Fact.

Similar to when Westbrook stopped taking as many 3's, Westbrook became more efficient.

Harden and Rockets true problem is how do they make opposing teams pay for doubling Harden.

And neither MDA nor Morey made Harden stop shooting mid range. Just like they did not stop CP3 or Russ.

Only players who were deterred from taking mid range shots were role players. That includes Melo.

 

There is truth to this.

At end of games or deepening a lead, the easier shot (whether it is mid range, layup or 3ball depending on the defense) is the best shot to take.

But the best way to come back when you are behind is the 3ball (and stops). Unless that shot is not falling.

Trading 2's is just death by a thousand cuts IMO.

 

do you play basketball?
You know when sometimes when your legs or hands are very tired its a lot easier to shoot 2s than 3s and 3s become terribly inefficient then because its affected by the tiredness

also i mentioned shooting midrange as a tune up of aiming mechanism... by shooting all over the floor you keep feedback info alive... your shooting mechanism in the brain gets better info...

also taking a couple of midranges to get better orientation or feel for the basket only helps the 3 pt shooting and overall percentages gets better... thats how human nervous system works...PSYCHOLOGY


it kinda works like a old school coaches taking a tech...its counterproductive in the short run and terribly inefficient but it won games many times...

 

Should be a quick video

 

Harden don’t need a midrange lol

his scoring would go way down

he just need a better coach

 

Who indafuq wants to watch 35 minutes of Dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble shoot?

I’ll take Harden fanboi for $500, Alex.

It doesn’t matter if he shoots from 15 or 25ft. Watching just 2 minutes of that highlight is a reminder why we’ll never win anything with him. Ball stopping ISO king dominating the ball as usual while everyone else stands around with a thumb up their ass.

 

Let's compromise: What if he gathers inside the arc, then does a step-back over the line to shoot? Good enough?

 

Just imagine how much more dangerous he would be if he became a true triple threat . Someone who can kill you from the three , midrange and off the dribble penetration in the paint.

It boggles the mind How D’Antoni limited Harden

 

It's a shame how he lost so much versatility from the 14-15 season ish era. He's so much better as a basketball player in almost every way, from turnovers, passing, defense, 3pt shooting, etc. But him limiting himself to the 3pt line has cost him in some games.

I don't think he should just jack midrange shots all the time, but he should mix one or two in when he's struggling from 3. It can help him get his rhythm and make his next 3 easier.

He's a career 42% shooter from 10-16 feet. While that's not amazing by any means, it's a more efficient shot than jacking up another 3 when he's already like 1-10 and clearly not in a rhythm. He can drive, stop on a dime and get an easy 15-footer whenever he wants. Wish he would mix a few in here and there especially if he's getting stuffed at the rim.

 

How to defend James Harden?

Easy.

Double team at 3pt line and play big center at post. Mid range? Who cares! Harden won’t shoot mid range anyway.

 

I say this with no disrespect but will you efficiency nerds stop with this logic. Basketball is a game about feel and instincts. If you limit yourself, it will make the us easier to defend in the playoffs i.e the spurs in 2017. They kept Gasol under the rim because Harden and others were not taking that shot no matter how open it was. It's why the lakers were able to run us off the 3 point line and rotate because they don't have to worry about someone taking a couple dribbles and shooting an open 18 footer. I specifically remember a play where Austin RIvers turned the ball over because he didn't even look at the rim.

 

What's the evidence that if you are bricking from 3 pointers, you are gonna be some awesome mid range shooter? I dont even know that there is any evidence that if you can hit a few mid rangers, you will stop sucking from 3. He should use it more in the clutch though.

 

Lol and then what happend the year after that when we got Chris Paul and the year after that. James Harden cant do it all by himself. And also....bro do you honestly actually believe that mid rangers would have helped us that series against the Lakers....like for real?

 

I'd like to see him add it to his late-game package, that's all.

 

There's no evidence for that specifically (that I am aware of) but he is a higher percentage shooter from like 15 feet than he is from 3. Never said he was an awesome midrange shooter but perhaps it could be helpful to see a shot go in, and if he's stinking it up from 3 shooting a short jumper increases the chances of that.

I agree midrange should be used more in clutch as it is a higher percentage shot (even if it's less PPS).

 

Imagine Kevin Durant and Kawhi Leonard do not take mid range shots... Imagine Michael Jordan only shoot 3s and layup...

They will lose their most deadly weapons in clutch moments. They don’t shoot damn long 3s in clutch moments. Mid range shots is the easiest way to score for them.

 

Very good choice between harden and russ with the midrange game would be really hard to beat.

 

but its inefficient?
JK
lol proponents of the analytics and the efficiency have no clue what the real efficiency is... their knowledge of statistics is real lacking and very inefficient

and its not only the clutch moments... its the fact that sometimes the defense dictate what kind of shots you will take...
sometimes defenses focus on stopping layups and 3s and force you to take midrange, willingly making themselves vulnerable to the shots from that area... what you gonna do then?