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A Look At The Next Generation of White Supremacists

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Reeko, Oct 27, 2020.

  1. Reeko

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    “What are your beliefs that led you to join the org?” —Vincent KY

    “At the core of my position are these principles: The categorical rejection of the notion of equality. The categorical rejection of universal democracy. Explicit In-Group preference.” —Logan TN

    “In short: I cannot stand by idly while my people fall into despair, degeneracy, and ethnic replacement.” —Anthony IL

    “I feel like jews immigrants and mustims are a malicious threat to the united States and it’s economy that’s why the people are in current state of civil unrest these n!##3π’$ are causing them selves to be shot by the police and Making the split even bigger I feel as if there’s going to be a huge race war and us whites will come out on top. How do you feel about this statement?” —Vincent KY

    “” —Arthur TX

    Those are just some of the hundreds of messages exchanged by the members of Patriot Front, a 3-year-old white supremacist organization that has grown into one of the most active hate groups in the United States. The messages reveal a sophisticated network of extremists who are training for violence.

    The men, who believe the United States is a nation that belongs only to white people, wear uniforms made up of bomber jackets, face coverings, and beige khakis, mandate weight loss and intense workouts, and regularly practice hand-to-hand combat. Some openly call themselves “supremacist” and revere Hitler and Mussolini.

    BuzzFeed News has received a cache of hundreds of messages exchanged by Patriot Front members on Rocket.Chat, an encrypted group messaging app. In logs of the chats, all from this year, around 280 members of the group discuss grandiose goals — creating a white ethnostate from the existing United States. The group wants to expel immigrants, people of color, and Jews, remaking the fabric of America.

    And while what Patriot Front does in the meantime — putting up stickers bearing their logo in cities and college campuses, covering pro–Black Lives Matter billboards with their own propaganda, and marching in the middle of the night through empty streets — may seem small, it has recruited 21 new members in the last 30 days.

    “Casting a ballot is a submissive gesture to legitimize tyranny.”

    As the United States hurtles toward the presidential election, the country seems ready to forget that its own homegrown fascism predated President Donald Trump — and to ignore that it will last after he leaves office. Yet for its part, Patriot Front couldn't care less about the results of the upcoming election.

    “It does not matter what people personally believe about it,” wrote the organization’s leader, Thomas Rousseau, who did not respond to a request for comment, in one of the chats. “Casting a ballot is a submissive gesture to legitimize tyranny. It is fundamentally amoral. It is done as an insult to the nation’s cause and the organization.”

    In Vermont, Patriot Front has been active since 2018. One of its most disturbing incidents came in 2019, months after the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, when the Ohavi Zedek Synagogue, an LGBTQ center, and the Burlington Free Press, which had been doggedly reporting on the group, were vandalized.

    As the home of Sen. Bernie Sanders, Burlington is often seen as a liberal bubble, which made Patriot Front’s attacks all the more shocking, Rabbi Amy Small of the Ohavi Zedek Synagogue, told BuzzFeed News.

    “A few months before the incident on our property, one of our synagogue members told me that on a nearby road she saw Patriot Front posters pasted on the streetlights and street signs, one after the next,” said Small. “She was beside herself with fear.”

    “This was just raw intimidation.”

    Authorities were called, but nothing could be done because no laws were broken. Then, one late afternoon in February, Small was driving up to the synagogue after some meetings.

    “As I was approaching the synagogue, I saw the Patriot Front poster pasted onto our front sign,” she said. “It's very jarring, in a time when I know there's so much hate.”

    Police removed the poster and launched an investigation, which eventually ended without charges. The response from the community was uplifting, Small said, as people left cards and signs of love and support. Together with other religious and LGBTQ community leaders, Smalls organized a rally on the steps of City Hall.

    Patriot Front formed from the failure of another far-right group, Vanguard America. As one of its two leaders, Rousseau attended the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in 2017, during which a man who marched with them killed counterprotester Heather Heyer. In the aftermath, Vanguard formally dissolved, allowing Rousseau, then 19 years old, to push out a rival and rebrand the group around a cult of personality.

    He and his followers are mostly zoomers, born in the late ‘90s or early ‘00s, and circle frequently around topics that include traditional masculinity, weight loss, and white power.

    the rest of what these incels are up to at the link

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtm...s=&utm_term=4ldqpgc&__twitter_impression=true
     
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    I am sure they are very fine people, both sides, very fine people!
     
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    White supremacists take responsibility on social media for carvings on sacred Native site
    BLM confirms an investigation

    BY: DARRELL EHRLICK - MARCH 4, 2023 10:29 AM
    Daily Montanan

    A white nationalist group appears to have taken credit for etching Nazi symbols on an outdoor recreational area managed by the Bureau of Land Management and named after a prominent Crow leader.

    The BLM confirmed that it is investigating graffiti carved into the Four Dances area, which is located approximately three miles south of Billings. The Big Sky Active Club said on its Gab social media account: “BSAC went on a hike and etched our message in stone. Tribe up or die.”

    Big Sky Active Club is a group linked to white supremacists.

    The carving showed a swastika with the number 14/88, a popular white supremacist symbol that refers to the “14 words” slogan and 88, a numerical reference to the “Heil Hitler” chant used by Nazis and other hate groups, according to the Anti-Defamation League. A second set of carving shows the “SS” lightning bolts.

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    “The SS Bolts are a common white supremacist/neo-Nazi symbol derived from Schutzstaffel (SS) of Nazi Germany,” said a reference article on white hate by the ADL. “The SS, led by Heinrich Himmler, maintained the police state of Nazi Germany. Its members ranged from agents of the Gestapo to soldiers of the Waffen (armed) SS to guards at concentration and death camps.”

    Another carving showed a swastika with the message: “We are everywhere.”

    Another social media post by Big Sky Active Club named one of its members, who has not yet been charged, with carving the symbols.

    “(Name) doing some nazi vandalism in the outdoors,” the post said, adding a couple of orange, angry-faced emojis.

    The Daily Montanan located the person in the picture on Facebook and reached out to him, but did not receive a response.

    The National Park Service has classified the Four Dances a “Special Recreation Management Area and an area of critical environmental concern.”

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    It's definitely pathetic. But I can't pity someone who wakes up every day, knows they are worse than useless to humanity, and chooses to do nothing but double down on being even more toxic and horrible.
     
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    “Casting a ballot is a submissive gesture to legitimize tyranny.”

    ooops…….I often have very similar thoughts.
     
  6. Reeko

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    sure does seem that there has been a massive rise in unabashed Nazi behavior the past several years
     
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    some graffiti was scribbled on a rock? Alert the FBI, all hands on deck.
     
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    I bet you would feel differently if someone spray painted the word "Antifa" on your church.
     
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    A white supremacist, satanist, AND jihadist group? They’re all over the place. They seem confused

    they say that Ethan Phalen Melzer guy is 24 years old

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    he looks at least 35

    hate really does age u in dog years….
     
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    Do we think he is in it to hail satan, white supremacy or for Mohammed?
     
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    It's AND, not OR. I would replace Mohammed with ISIS.

    It seems like he fell for propaganda when he was around 20 years old. He pled guilty and received a sentence of 45 years, instead of the 15 years the Defense asked for.


    Former U.S. Army Soldier Sentenced to 45 Years in Prison for Attempting for Murder Fellow Service Members in Deadly Ambush | OPA | Department of Justice

    According to court documents, Melzer is a member of O9A. O9A espouses neo-Nazi, antisemitic and Satanic beliefs and promotes extreme violence to accelerate and cause the demise of Western civilization. The group has expressed admiration both for Nazis, such as Adolf Hitler, and Islamic jihadists, such as Usama Bin Laden, the now-deceased former leader of al Qaeda. Members and associates of O9A have also participated in acts of violence, including murders. O9A members are instructed to fulfill “sinister” deeds, including “insight roles,” where they attempt to infiltrate various organizations, including the military, to gain training and experience, commit acts of violence, identify like-minded individuals, and ultimately subvert those groups from within.

    Melzer joined the U.S. Army in approximately 2018 and infiltrated its ranks as part of an insight role to further his goals as an O9A adherent. In approximately October 2019, Melzer deployed abroad with the Army to Italy as a member of the 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team. While stationed abroad, Melzer consumed propaganda from multiple extremist groups, including O9A and the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, which is also known as ISIS. For example, Melzer subscribed to encrypted online forums where he downloaded and accessed videos of jihadist attacks on U.S. troops and facilities and jihadist executions of civilians and soldiers, in addition to far-right, neo-Nazi, and other white supremacist propaganda.

    In approximately early May 2020, the Army informed Melzer that he would be reassigned to a unit scheduled for a further foreign deployment, where the unit would be guarding an isolated and sensitive military installation (the Military Base). After he was notified of the assignment, Melzer joined his new unit and attended weeks of training, including classified and unclassified briefings, to prepare for the deployment. As part of this intensive training, Melzer learned details about the purpose, layout, and security of the Military Base. Melzer and his unit also received in-depth training about and practiced for numerous threat scenarios at the Military Base, including how to respond to various potential terrorist attack scenarios.

    Upon learning the importance and sensitivity of his upcoming deployment, Melzer immediately began passing that information to members of O9A. Melzer secretly used an encrypted messaging application to propose, advocate for, and plan a deadly attack on his fellow service members. Melzer sent messages to members and associates of O9A and, in particular, a sub-group of O9A known as the “RapeWaffen Division,” providing details about his unit’s anticipated deployment including troop movements, relevant dates, locations, armaments, topography, and security, all in connection with the proposed attack on his unit and the Military Base. Melzer and his co-conspirators used this information to plan what they referred to as a “jihadi attack” with the objective of causing a “mass casualty” event victimizing his fellow service members. For example, after describing the unit’s weaponry during the deployment — and providing information consistent with the briefings he had received — Melzer described to his co-conspirators how an attack would “essentially cripple” the unit’s “fire-teams.”

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    US soldier Ethan Melzer, described as 'the enemy within,' sentenced for jihadist plot - ABC News (go.com)

    The defense sought 15 years, citing Melzer's remorse and a childhood of "neglect and abuse" by what they said was an alcoholic, mentally ill single mother.

    "To be around him now is to know his palpable remorse, his guilt, his shame," defense attorney Jonathan Marvinny, an assistant federal defender, said in a sentencing memorandum. "They are always in the room."
     

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