Cooking with grease? No that wasn't my statement, that's you making up a statement because you are mad I gave Obama credit for his role in the O&G renaissance. Doesn't surprise me considering this conversation. Are you saying only the GOP was involved in the PPE? You do realize that is a bipartisan deal....? And guess what.... none of that stuff happened. There was no legislation passed aimed at specifically curtailing funds to O&G passed, like there was no legislation aimed at bailing out O&G passed. Bailing out companies who hurt themselves is usually a hard sell. Uuuuuhh. Oil and gas are energy commodities that were targeted in Trump's ill conceived trade war, not to mention the steel that goes into it. Trump's trade war is the biggest threat to the oil and gas industry Toll of Trump's Trade War Starting To Show In Oil Industry They hurt them with the trade war then try and bail them out...... I guess I'm tired of the GOP's poor policies that cause all these extra costs. I never said he was the savior.... you are just using hyperbole to make my statement into something it was not. Obama was merely pragmatic and wanted to create jobs. He wasn't ignorant of the growth in the O&G sector.
I guess if you want to pat yourself on the back for a moral victory... but your disdain for the Democrats cost your 3 supreme court nominations. Much harder to pass Progressive ideals when the court has a better chance of striking it down.
Obviously....And Bernie's Bros were too high minded to put a democrat into the presidency in 2016 and it cost them dearly. Turns out its hard to pass legislation and appoint judges when you are on the sidelines..... The most powerful lobbying entities thanks Bernie Bros for being on their high horse in 2016. Just out of touch because you spend too much time in a progressive bubble.
I didn't quote you. WTF. If you've been paying attention to any of the board posts I've been making I keep telling everyone that people I meet in O&G are surprisingly left-wing. You're obviously not working in O&G, and have no context. I'm providing it to you. The **** is your problem, you can't read because you have to start beef with everyone? Dems blocked all potential O&G-specific bailout bills in the COVID relief packages. So if anything happened they'd have to get them in a stealth manner, and indeed they did. And all of you tree-huggers were just bat-**** pissed off about that during the stretch. Now apparently you think the Dems support O&G which is the craziest ****ing thing I've ever heard. You could've just said Trade War. Makes me think you didn't even know what it was called, wtf? You mean the downstream effect of the trade war on O&G? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China–United_States_trade_war Like, O&G was one of the least impacted from the trade war. Throw that into the mix every time you suck at an argument and don't know what's going on? What were you talking about, something about how Biden is the savior of the O&G industry? And now you think Trump waging a trade war w/ China is worse than Biden saying we should transition away from oil? The trade war was not the reason the industry is down. COVID shutdown has been the worst since nobody is traveling. The price war with OPEC vs Shale, and the severe lack of demand for O&G is the big problem. The trade war is something that I barely ever see coordinated in oil prices. I mean, sorry, you just don't know enough about the O&G industry, you're not going to convince me that Biden is going to save O&G. They're not sympathetic. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/aoc-de...-in-oil-prices-you-absolutely-love-to-see-it/ You can't reel it back in, it's over. You don't like O&G because it's not environmentally friendly. I get it and that's fine, but to half-ass it by covering spreads like you're in a casino this is stupid af.
Ultimately, Trump hasn't really shown what he has accomplished in his last 4 years and he has no plan for the next 4. All he has done is a tax cut for the rich and appoint a bunch of judges. He got some token foreign policy wins but outside of that, he's accomplished nothing and in fact has moved us backwards in many ways. I am not sure he did much to change that perception tonight.
I thought Trump was fine. However most of the polling after the debate has Biden winning the debate by a pretty decent margin... I am coming to the conclusion that a sizable portion of the American people have made up their mind on Trump and they just hate him.
actually, people---including many former Trump voters, in particular seniors in Fla---will vote for who will implement a national plan to combat the spread of COVID19. the dizzying height of stupidity, pretending that we're NOT in the middle of a pandemic, the Trump virus earth to bigtexxx, Biden has proposed tax increase to people w income > $400K, those making less than $400K will not be impacted
No you are merely mispresenting me. I was in O&G in the Obama years and I have the opposite experience as you. Maybe your notion of left wing is expansive.... and a bit bias? Did you not read? O&G still got bailouts, not through some stealth manner but the PPE...... Again the GOP controls more of the government and they couldn't compromise in order to get it done... maybe toss in some money that Dems wanted to plug state and local budget deficits? Nope, there you go again being dishonest. Becoming a habit? Yea I literally said "trade war" in post 451.... I can't make you follow along..... Yes the downstream effect.... you know all those export and refining facilities I mentioned in the beginning that ex.... Did you not read my links? I see that you quoted them.....Again.... can't make you follow along or read. LOLOLOL. Again... you just keep help but be dishonest. Considering that trainwreck thread you started in Hangouts.... not surprised you have to resort to lying. Never claimed the trade war was the reason the industry was down, that was initially due to a supply glut. The trade war impacted demand.... Who knew multiple things can effect something? Oil Demand Shrinks Under Weight of US-China Trade War Then read my links or focus on the downward trend in your graph about 2018ish.... Covid was 2020 right? LOLOL. Savior Biden..... you can't help but be dishonest. Well climate change and renewable energy isn't going to go away. All industries must adapt and evolve over time, it's cute you think O&G is different. LOLOLOLOL. I was excited Rex Tillerson was going to be Sec of State and push US natural gas and petro exports..... but Trump's dumb nationalist fat ass started a trade war instead of shrewdly using a stable, inexpensive US energy to influence geopolitics. I won't lie I despise the short sightedness I saw working in O&G.... the idiots should be promoting natural gas as a bridge instead of fighting and denying climate change action at every turn.
After Hillary, I don't trust polls. I know that the polls are fine, but who are they including in those reports? Do you ever get picked for a poll? I was polled once in my life -- 2012.
When Biden said he would call his version of healthcare Bidencare. Somewhere Obama was saying this...
Biden can't have it both ways, He can't take credit for the accompishments while he was VP and not the setbacks.
