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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Imanimal, Oct 10, 2020.

  1. BimaThug

    BimaThug Resident Capologist
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    Not really. Until he is re-signed, Davis's CAP HOLD will still apply towards the Lakers' books for next season for purposes of determining if they are over the apron and thus can or cannot use the Non-Taxpayer MLE. I haven't taken a close look at the Lakers' cap sheet, but I'm guessing they won't want to hard cap themselves by using the NT-MLE, especially if they expect to add more salary via trades.

    For that same reason, I also doubt they will take a player via S&T. That would also impose a hard cap at the apron level.

    Instead, I expect the Lakers to use the full Taxpayer MLE on a good player (probably someone who ordinarily wouldn't take such a low salary) and then look to re-sign their role players, add (non-S&T) salary via trades and grab veteran steals at the minimum.
     
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    It seems Lakers fans will do anything to get support
     
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  3. Imanimal

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    This will all be worth it for JVG....if they go cheap and hire someone else then I apologize for the hoorrid, sickening comment. Hate LeBron more than any other player in the NBA in the last 30 years!!!
     
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    It's not sad, it's just total bullshit anyway, it's not basketball when the best player in the world can literally force a another franchise to trade a superstar to them.
     
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    They will NEVER get support from the 99ers
    @Reeko
     
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  6. apollo33

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    Also LA put in no effort to build this franchise. There's literally nothing impressive about this win. They had a horrible management and was going to be garbage forever until LeBron one day decided he wants to play there, and have Clutch essentially strong arm a franchise.
     
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    I hate LA Lakers. I dislike Bron.

    You know what though, I'd love to have the Rockets win a championship this way lol. Don't care if other fans were not impressed along the way.
     
  8. Easy

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    I was arguing in another thread with the LeBron fans that the "championships on three different teams" thing should be a negative for LeBron's legacy. His team-hopping has been spinned into something positive in the LeBron narrative. It's clearly easier not harder to win championships if you can choose your own teammates.

    That said, I do think that LeBron deserves to be at least considered to be the GOAT. He is that good. And his durability should count for something.
     
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  9. BallSoHarden

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    Hmmm so you guys were rooting for the team that Jimmy rejected the Rockets for? Sus :D

    Also, wouldn't the faster JVG gets here mean the faster Harden is traded away? JVG has never been a players coach, he's the complete opposite of MDA whom they wanted back apparently, what is the appeal here?
     
  10. Zoplicone

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    That’s incorrect. JVG stands up for his stars and takes the heat for them. His last time here he was consistently defending Mcgrady while together. Always had his back.
     
  11. Icehouse

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    Naw, just cuz players have say in where they go doesn’t mean it’s no longer basketball. Plenty of bs trades have occurred in league history. Weren’t we hoping Butler made the same type of decision for us???
     
  12. Icehouse

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    Taking matters into your own hands is a negative. In America. Interesting.
     
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    I do not see it as a negative or positive, sure, it looks bad for some.

    On the contrary, I think with the millenial thinking and the emergence of social media, this was about to happen.

    He was just the first and best player to totally make use of the Free agency to his advantage.

    And mostly because he has all world talent.

    Furthermore I think hate from people spurs him on.

    I am sick to my stomach about this GOAT talk. Makes me want to hate both players which I won't be doing.
     
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  14. Imanimal

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    Yes
     
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    Another thing is I think Lakers could have signed better role players if they had not waited for Kawhi.

    Screwed it up for weeks I guess.
     
  16. Imanimal

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    Sadly, it looks like my greatest fear was realized and the extra game gave the team enough time to fall in love with Lue. Sounds like he is a shoe in if he takes their cheap offer and agrees to Morey’s smallball.
     
  17. Easy

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    You keep saying that. But that's not really the point. The real issue in this is that the GOAT discussion has something to do with how hard it was to achieve what you did. Hakeem was seen as among greatest even though he only won two chips because of the team he had.

    Bill Russell was seldom seriously considered the GOAT even though he won more championships than MJ and LeBron and Kareem and Wilt. Why? Because he had a stacked team compared to the rest of the league. It was relatively easy for him to win all those rings. Russell didn't take matters into his own hands. He was just lucky to be in the situation. Same can be said about Magic and Bird. "Taking matters into your own hands" in the context of great achievement means not running away from adverse situations and turning it into great accomplishments.

    David and Goliath is a famous story because David achieved something under extremely difficult circumstances he did not choose. If Goliath won, nobody would thought it was a great achievement for a giant to crush a boy. Almost all heroic stories are similar to that.

    This is just commonsense human sentiment. It's not hard to understand unless you are blinded by your fandom of certain player.

    The only counter argument I can see is that it is actually more challenging to win by forming your own super team.
     
  18. Icehouse

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    So we should eliminate all of the following, cuz I’m not seeing what’s so hard about:

    Russell - winning with all the help he had in Boston

    Jordan - winning with a team good enough to almost go to the ECFs without you, or winning again when that team adds Rodman

    Kareem - winning with Big O and Magic

    Which of these would you say was hard?

    FYI, Russell WAS considered the goat up until the 80’s. Cap won 5 more then Magic/Bird/Jordan happened. Folks that watched Russell play got old and folks yapping about the GOAT now watched all of those players do their thing.

    FYI, Magic did take matters into his own hands. He only left school early to play with Kareem. He said if LA wasn’t picking then he was going back to school.
     
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    Another week wouldn’t of mattered and I WILL NEVER ROOT for the Lakers!!!!
    ..... but other than JVG , the list of coaches who the Rockets are mentioning

    NOT very impressive
     
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    Not if he respects you. Francis and Mobley he did not. Tmac, he did, but I don't know why.
     

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