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First Presidential Debate

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Two Sandwiches, Sep 28, 2020.

  1. Jugdish

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    On your vacancy comment, I agree. Biden has an opportunity at a simple retort:

    "That's not what President Obama was given."

    But he missed it...
     
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    I think Isaac is stating that all white politicians are racists but one of them is also racist toward Chinese?

    Race sensitivity training for police being cancelled and called a "radical idea" at the debates was a non-issue it seems.

    What has "being tough on China" done for us exactly?
     
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  5. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    Lissenup. Tuff and not backing down dog sicology means your a good leder. Budweser.
     
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    China's been stealing our intellectual property since the 90s. They are our enemy and I'm glad the Trump admin has been tough on them.
     
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    I'm aware. Any specific benefit compared to other admins with regards to IP? Greatly beneficial new policy you can point to?
     
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    Juan has never called me out and why the hell would you bring another poster into this?

    Nobody gives a **** what you think, I stand by what I post here and if I get a little heated I own it.

    At least you did not accuse me of being obtuse again, that's usually your go to deflection.
     
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    I remember an exchange where he was frustrated with your confrontational posting style.
     
  12. Rashmon

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    From around the world...

    Presidential debate: How the world's media reacted

    US voters have endured the first of three presidential debates between President Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

    The event has also prompted a huge reaction from world audiences who tuned in for the chaotic event.

    Newspapers and commentators around the world have criticised the tone and tactics of the debate.

    As The Times in the UK wrote, "The clearest loser from the first presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden was America."

    UK
    The paper went further, saying the event "was not a debate in any meaningful sense" but rather "an ill-tempered and at times incomprehensible squabble between two angry septuagenarians who palpably loathe each other".

    The Guardian described it as a "national humiliation".

    "The rest of the world - and future historians - will presumably look at it and weep," the paper wrote, adding that Mr Biden was the only man who looked "remotely presidential" on the stage and saying that if Mr Trump was re-elected in November, "this dark, horrifying, unwatchable fever dream will surely be the first line of America's obituary."

    "Shut up, man" and other insults and interruptions

    The Financial Times highlighted how the president had stoked lies about voter fraud and urged his supporters to carefully watch polling stations. "'Dog-whistling' is the politico-speak for such language, but it implies subtlety. Mr Trump was blatant," it wrote.

    The paper also noted that snap polls after the event said Mr Biden had come out on top. "But no one with a care for American democracy can have switched off feeling anything but queasy."

    France
    "Chaotic, childish, gruelling" - that's how French newspaper Libération described Tuesday's debate. Le Monde agreed, calling it a "terrible storm", and saying that the president had sought to "push his opponent off his hinges" with constant interruptions and by mocking his answers.

    Le Figaro said Mr Biden had "systematically refused to play his opponent's game". While Mr Trump tried to directly confront his challenger, pointing at him and addressing him directly, the Democratic candidate spoke more to viewers and looked directly into the camera.

    Biden: 'Do you believe for a moment what he's telling you?'

    "Trump voters are unlikely to have had any doubts about their candidate, despite an unconvincing performance. Those of Biden, on the other hand, had confirmation that the Democrat was able to measure up to his formidable opponent, and even put him on the defensive," the paper wrote.

    Germany
    Der Spiegel's analysis of the debate is headlined "A TV duel like a car accident".

    In a piece titled "Part fist-fight, part play", Süddeutsche Zeitung wrote: "Both Trump and Biden could go home satisfied because as far as the theatrical performance is concerned, both did their job properly. Donald Trump played Donald Trump, Joe Biden played Joe Biden, and fans should have liked it."

    Die Welt said the debate had revealed very little about policy. "Most importantly, it showed that America has a president whose behaviour stands out and who lacks self-control - but that's not exactly news," it wrote.

    Mr Biden in contrast was not an exciting candidate but "at least someone with common sense and a stable personality" who would "bring something like normalcy back to the White House".

    Italy
    "Never had American politics sunk so low," La Repubblica's US correspondent wrote, describing the debate as "Chaotic, rowdy, and based on mutual contempt".

    Il Corriere della Sera meanwhile said President Trump's refusal to condemn white supremacy was "a message for Black America".

    'Proud Boys, stand back and stand by' - Trump

    Russia

    One broadcaster described it as a "one and a half-hour exchange of insults", while another said there was "no constructive dialogue".

    "The rivals kept interrupting each other and instead of a balanced discussion they chose the path of mutual insults," pro-Kremlin NTV television said.

    Mr Biden's description of President Trump as "Putin's puppy" also generated comments on Russian social media. One Twitter user said: "Two old men are figuring out which of them is more worthy to become the president of the United States, but without Putin, you can't boost your rating."

    China
    Chinese official media sites broadly ignored the US debate although some wrote about how both candidates had used China to attack their opponent.

    The state-run Global Times called it "the most chaotic presidential debate ever" and noted that Mr Trump had taken "aim at China by blaming [it] for the raging Covid-19 epidemic and US economic woes".

    Editor-in-chief Hu Xijin wrote on Twitter that the debate reflected "division, anxiety of US society and the accelerating loss of advantages of the US political system".

    India
    Hindi-language news channel AajTak accused both candidates of "mud-slinging", while broadcaster Times Now said the debate was "marred with personal jibes and political barbs".

    But the strongest commentary came from The Times of India, the country's largest-selling English-language newspaper, which compared the debate to "mud-wrestling".

    "The US embarrassed itself before the world for 100 minutes," it wrote.

    BBC Monitoring contributed to this report.
     
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    I just did a bbs search with "obtuse" and my username to see all the times I've used that term. I've never used that towards you and ironically

    https://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/official-joe-2020.298082/page-137#post-13131222

    You called me that. Very Trumpian. I guess you can say that I called a tactic of yours Trumpian now so you can get offended by that I guess. Would be more accurate of a attack on me.
     
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    I am the fiercest ChiCom hunter on this site, with the help of tinman, I kicked out a ChiCom b*stard who wished death to America. You on the hand admired Hugo Chavez for the longest of time and wish America were more like Venezuela.

    Others may have missed your socialism obsession but not I. You and the loonies like you in here are what the ChiCom really want to populate America, it will make their 100 year marathon plan much much easier.

    You and your fellow lefties in here never grasped the 36 stratagems of these ChiCom bastards. I , on the other know these commie bastards so well that I will fight them as long as I yet draw breath.
     
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    Ok you got me, I am very Trumpian.

    You want to add up all the times you have used obtuse as opposed to me?

    It's amazing how un self aware you are.
     
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    Your claim was that I repeatedly call you obtuse and the only time that word has been exchanged between us two before today was you calling me that. I just find that kinda funny. I mean you chose the worst word to make an example of me being percieved as toxic.

    I'll call your specific act here Trumpian, but not your entire being. You seem to hurl more insults at people especially people who only slightly disagree with you.
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    This is probably better for another thread but Trump being tough on the PRC is not quite what he makes it out to be.
     
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  18. rocketsjudoka

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    That is going to haunt me more than the debate..
     
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    lol rush is whining about fact checking
     
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  20. generalthade_03

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    Yeah, I really truly care what the ChiCom bastards think about our politics.
     

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