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James Harden does not have the heart of a champion.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Sep 2, 2020.

  1. SuperMarioBro

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    Tell Tyler Herro he's too inexperienced to be helping bring the Heat to a 6-0 playoff record so far.

    SGA has been playing great ball all season. You don't NEED to be experienced to be productive, especially if you're not expected to lead your team.
     
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  2. HP3

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    Chris Paul was an all star. Shai Gllgeous Alexander has all star potential. He's a very good player, he isnt some scrub..And Dort is one of the best defensive players in the NBA. He's better at defending Harden than anyone on the Lakers, guaranteed. Do you realize OKCs three guard lineup had the best net rating during the regular season? We had Westbrook missing the first 4 games, if he had played(Lol maybe) it would have been shorter.

    Nah Denver's defense is easily the second worst in the bubble along with Portland. OKC has definitely been playing better than either of them. Portland was never that good to begin, they played a bunch of bad teams and got into the playoffs. Either way to make OKC seem like they are some chump team compared to Utah, Portland or Denver is incredibly disingenuous.
     
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    Did they really? All I heard on the national waves and from a healthy amount of "fans" here was that they would lose the series after the first Thunder win. Buying into the Chris Fraud hoopla.

    Stat nerds TRIED to make this series more interesting than it was by pointing out how good OKC was with certain lineups and how good their defense was.

    This was not a 1 beating an 8 by any stretch of the imagination, OKC belonged and they played as well as they could.

    Even if the Rockets beat LA you will still have some sorry ass Danny Downers who cant seem to get an ounce of enjoyment from this team chiming in with absurd opinions.

    Take that sht to reddit or twitter. This is the MECCA of Rockets basketball and Im tired of having to listen to constant negativity here.
     
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  4. SamFisher

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    James Harden had the hand of a champion.

     
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    I mean we/he's been asking for single coverage all year, he finally gets it against a rookie and Schroder and... ya
     
  6. bulkatron

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    I have yet to see you post anything positive about the Rockets. It’s just constant Harden smear. At some point you have to ask yourself what you’re trying to accomplish by cheering against the team you claim to be cheering for.
     
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  7. vlaurelio

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    you are not "both"
     
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    Harden being compared to top 5 players in the history of the NBA and then mocked because he does not live up to those players while never having comparable teams is asinine.

    I have never seen a player who has overachieved his draft ranking as much as he has who has received this kind of scrutiny at least Lebron had all of the hype, Harden was an afterthought.

    It's really mind boggling even the ESPN announcer kept talking about him coming up short in game 7's but yet never talking about Paul coming up short.
     
  9. jiggyfly

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    And 29.7 ppg on 46% shooting

    You were saying?

    And oh yeah 8 ast.
     
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  10. vlaurelio

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    @fchowd0311 was the biggest dort cheerleader
     
  11. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Yes, they are at altitude (of 2 feet above sea level).
     
  12. Mandrake

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    It's really simple. Haters gonna hate.
     
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  13. wekko368

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    Yes, the Rockets were expected to win. That's why they were the favorites before the series started.

    I think most people said that if we lost, it'd be an epic choke-job and a defining moment in Harden's legacy. And you can't have an epic choke job if you aren't favored to win.
     
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  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    He is not a leader in the classic sense, that is why I liked CP3 here, he held him accountable.....Russ is a leader but is the kind that leads you to failure.

    DD
     
  15. wekko368

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    The playoffs are far different from the regular season, and no matter how much you dress it up, this is Gilgeous-Alexander's 2nd year and Dort's rookie year. They're inexperienced. Why are you arguing against this fact?

    Doesn't matter. Jokic can get whatever he wants against Adams. In their 3 meetings this year, Jokic averaged 30 ppg on 66% shooting.

    And regarding Portland, you're forgetting that Nurkic missed the entire year. He's a difference maker.
     
  16. wekko368

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    That's an intellectually dishonest comparison, and you know it.

    On the Heat, Herro was their 5th leading scorer in the regular season, and Miami has plenty of veteran leaders. If Herro underperforms in the playoffs, someone else will step up.

    On the Thunder, SGA was the leading scorer in the regular season. LEADING SCORER. That's a lot of pressure for a 2nd year player to have, especially in the playoffs.
     
  17. wekko368

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    OKC essentially ran a 7 man rotation. Dort and Bazley are rookies, and SGA is in his 2nd year. Gallinari has never been past the first round. Schroder and Adams haven't been to the 2nd round since 2016.

    It's fair to refer to OKC as "inexperienced".
     
  18. HP3

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    Because they have Schroder and CP there to fill up the slack??? Its not all him. There is also Gallo on the team as well who can get buckets. You are making disingenuous points to fit your narrative. And Dort is and has been an amazing defender all season, go ask the thunder that. There is no on the Lakers who can cover Harden like that.

    Regular Season doesnt mean anything dude. Chris Paul would tear Jokic a new one in the pick and roll. That three guard lineup would have eaten Jokic alive. His defense is that bad.

    So what about Portland. They still got trashed by the Lakers and it wasn't competitive. They beat a whole lot of bad teams to get to the position they were in.
     
  19. HP3

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    He literally has Cp and Schroder backing him up for PG duties. Do you not get that Cp was actually their best player this season by impact metrics. It was not Shai, it was Cp. At best Shai is their second or third best player. And he didnt play that badly this series either. Dont forget he was part of that clippers team that got come back victories on the Warriors TWICE.
     
  20. Newlin

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    Ok. So he doesn’t have the heart or maybe the mind of a champion. Where do we go from here?

    Maybe, he will overcome his shortcomings and it will be a happy ending and result in a championship.

    His career isn’t over yet. There is still time.

    I’m not giving up on the guy yet. He has to figure it out.
     
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