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Lebron: Morey wasn't educated on issue

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by justtxyank, Oct 14, 2019.

  1. daywalker02

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    I fully agree with your sentiment at the end.

    You'd need more relevant parties like in Europe.

    And weaken the president's power while they are at it.
     
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    Socialism is evil and the Dems are a socialist party. Facts are facts.

    People who believe in capitalism will never get along with socialists. It's like oil and water, they don't mix.

    The rooters/looters are widening the gap. This is an uncomfortable truth
     
  3. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    if socialism is evil you’re gonna hate to know the US has been giving socialism for the last 3 months during COVID. $1200 and $600 extra unemployment lol.

    Cant wait to see you folks lose your **** in December. What you gonna do? Move to Mexico? Lol
     
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    You live in a cheesy movie, you know that? lol

    Of course they mix, they're mixed in lots of countries with more efficient economies. Btw, you've never really done capitalism well either. You keep f*cking it up with inheritances, capitalism will never reach its potential when there is that much unearned money and unrewarded labor in the economy. Inherited wealth in America is more than the size of most countries' economies, it's a gigantic proportion of your economy easily north of 30%.

    Capitalism is designed for reward and labor to exchange without external forces distorting the market. If that process is majorly distorted, you have a major problem.
     
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  5. BigDog63

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    Because LeBron isn't very well educated on the matter. Has personal experiences, most likely, but that doesn't make him well educated on the entire issue. He's speaking from emotion. Understandable, but often not that productive.

    Yes, quite frequently. Does anyone, though? Not really.

    I don't dislike the guy for it. He just needs to learn how to do it better. His saying guns were an issue yesterday was a good start. Didn't claim to know any solutions, but said guns were definitely an issue. That's a totally fair and reasonable thing to say.
     
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    Capitalism is designed to let the market dictate how good and services flow. Inheritance isn't really a factor in that. Probably the opposite, in fact. Is having the government confiscate it capitalism? No. Is there even any evidence having the government do that is the most effective use of the money? Again, no. Probably the opposite, in fact...that's getting more into communism. And that's without even bringing up that if one can't pass on said wealth, there becomes much less incentive to create it in the first place...thereby reducing the overall economic benefit.
     
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  7. daywalker02

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    Socialistic values have been there for the poor, can't say that much for capitalism as it has done more for the wealthy.

    And BTW Booyah, mankind is evil, oh hide yoself. :D
     
  8. Verbal Christ

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    Morey was right and everyone owes him an apology.
     
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    I'm really curious. If the American Capitalistic society is so bad and evil, why are immigrants so eager to come here? Why are the people that are pushing so hard for Socialism not fleeing our "oppressive Capitalistic system"?
     
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    Capitalism is what allows poor people to become wealthy, if they choose to do so.

    Socialism punishes those that have already sacrificed to become wealthy.
     
  11. daywalker02

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    Whatever fits your bill, isn't evil.
     
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    Say that to the Chinese millionaires/billionaires.

    CCP is doing 'socialism' while the minions are amassing wealth.

    Both are well established and more balanced in Europe too. Tons of social democratic parties.

    Socialism within the democratic frame.

    I can only assume that Americans have to separate everything?
     
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  13. Mathloom

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    Capitalism doesn't share the US constitution's sensitivity about government interference. Capitalism is just capitalism.

    Money that is inherited is not earned, meaning the economy will not function in a way where "winners" gain power, which is the BS dream that they sell on tv.

    Capitalism can't function with that kind of gigantic tumor in it. The product is not capitalism, even if it was a sincere attempt to produce it.
     
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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/rainer...the-failed-idea-that-never-dies/#204d8dd223cc

    "Over the past hundred years, there have been more than two dozen attempts to build a socialist society. It has been tried in the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, Albania, Poland, Vietnam, Bulgaria, Romania, Czechoslovakia, North Korea, Hungary, China, East Germany, Cuba, Tanzania, Laos, South Yemen, Somalia, the Congo, Ethiopia, Cambodia, Mozambique, Angola, Nicaragua and Venezuela, among others—not counting the very short-lived ones. All of these attempts have ended in varying degrees of failure."

    "The most recent example is Venezuela, which, just a few years ago, was being hailed by leading intellectuals and left-wing politicians as a model for “Socialism of the 21st Century.” One leading left-wing intellectual, the Princeton Professor Cornell West, proclaimed: “I love that Hugo Chávez has made poverty a major priority. I wish America would make poverty a priority.” And the high-profile journalist Barbara Walters enthused: “He cares very much about poverty, he is a socialist. What he’s trying to do for all of Latin America, they have been trying to do for years, eliminate poverty. But he is not the crazy man we’ve heard… This is a very intelligent man.” From Noam Chomsky to Naomi Klein—all the fashionable intellectuals were at it.

    Now that the failure of Venezuela’s socialist experiment is obvious to all and sundry, left-wing intellectuals scramble for excuses, coming up with extremely convoluted ways of claiming that what we saw in Venezuela was never “really” socialism at all."
     
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    IMO everyone is a bit of a hypocrite . Also , lebron is asked questions on many things ... in the age of everything being recorded there are no- doubt gonna be a few takes that come out looking dumb AF . Anyways , what did lebron's comment cost Morey ? the league stood with DM , lbj didnt affect their thinking . Did players not come here because of it ?

    I think all the comment did was gain Lebron chinese fans maybe . Guaranteed LBJ space jam chinese movie comes out in 5-10 years. Can we get Stephen Chow to direct it ? This could actually be good a Cross between space jam and shaolin soccer.
     
  16. waytookrzy079

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    So people like Zuckerburg, Bill Gates, Lebron, Harden, Oprah, Jordan, Balmer, Musk, Bezos - just to name a few - just inherited all of their wealth?
     
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    80% of millionaires are first generation rich - meaning they didn't inherit their money.
     
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  18. Mathloom

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    No they didn't of course. Not sure what that has to do with what we're talking about? The discussion is that the money that is with the hoarders will remain with the hoarders, it is not subject to any market forces, and there is necessary labor being exerted which is not being rewarded due to a lack of circulation in the economy.

    In a shiny capitalist economy, there is an assumption that wealth will flow towards demand and supply economics, but obviously those economics are hijacked when giant chunks of the entire country's wealth sit in the hands of people who have done f*ck all to earn it and can now afford to protect it and/or attack you.
     
  19. waytookrzy079

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    So what are you implying?

    That wealthy people are stopping others from working their butts off to also become wealthy?
    That wealthy people are holding others back from smart investing?
    That wealthy people are holding people back from delaying gratification and saving up for their futures?
    That wealthy people are holding people back from going to the library and opening up a book on becoming successful?

    Problem in lies with a lack financial education in this case. There's more and more people living paycheck to paycheck but they flash their luxury cars, have the newest iPhones, the latest Lebrons/Jordans, and have all kinds of streaming services. Then go out and blame the Wealthy for their lack of money.

    I cant speak for other people, but i personally use the money i earn from my job and invest into other places. I use my job as a tool to build my wealth. I dont use my job as my end all be all.
     
  20. Mathloom

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    1% of the country owns 40% of the wealth. How much of that wealth is first generation? Almost none.

    Btw, what a millionaire can buy today is significantly different than 20 years ago, so if you're thinking too many millionaires are being born for there not to be social mobility, it's because inflation bro.
     

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