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Dusty Baker: Yordan may be out for year

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by lnchan, Aug 19, 2020.

  1. Nook

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    The Astros were really skeptical they would get much out of him after he injured his knee again during the pandemic. He was running and in pretty good shape during the off season early.

    There are some on Crawford that are relieved as they were concerned about other possible problems as well. He played down the stretch last year unable to push off in the box. He has long had issues with this knee.

    This was the latest that they could put off the inevitable without him missing the beginning of next season (he still could as the length of time to recover from this injury varies).

    He is known as a hard worker and ambitious. I am sure he will be in shape when he can come back.
     
  2. SuraGotMadHops

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    So then this could've been done during the offseason?
     
  3. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    There was a prohibition on an elective surgeries in Texas for a bit... I wonder if that played a role
     
  4. Nook

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    It isn't a complete tear, it is a partial one. The issue was stability, pain and how it was impacting him. There is a real risk of a tear getting worse but there are also some who play on a small tear. Again, this isn't a rupture like some NBA players have. After the WS he rested for a bit and then was working out a lot, running and had lost weight with the hope that the knee would not be an issue and he could play the field. Then during COVID he supposedly hurt it and it became a concern.

    For some people it is a 3 month recovery time period. For others it can be 5 months and so on. The hope is he has the surgery, gets the rest and PT he needs and has time to get into baseball shape by next season. He still wants to try and play in the outfield if he can get in good enough shape.
     
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  6. Nook

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    If he and the Astros wanted exploratory surgery or something of that sort, he could have had it done. The hope was he could play with it...... but he cannot, there became stability issues.
     
  7. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    This season... argh.
     
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  8. BigM

    BigM Contributing Member

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    He’ll be fine. He also carries himself like someone who wants to be great so I’m not worried about his rehab.

    But it’s a monster suck for this year.
     
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    One of the great mysteries of our time.

    Can't play the field, can't run the bases ... We don't know!? MRIs/X-Rays came back clean! He's day-to-day! Nothing to see here!
    If the first and second opinion say "Everything is clean/fine", better go get a third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth opinion.
    Obviously everything is not and hasn't been fine. Can't play the field, can't run the bases, can't stay on his feet without "soreness".

    Been with the organization since August 2016
    Started or been dealing with it since Double-A (2018)



    2018
    2019
    Offseason
    Another 4/5 month layoff
    And they're just now getting a diagnosis/surgery...

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/te...varez-season-ending-knee-surgery-15495737.php

    This February, Alvarez told The Chronicle he “tried to manage (the pain) as best as I could” throughout the 2019 season.

    “You know it’s been bothering him for a while,” Astros manager Dusty Baker said. “The diagnosis was different this time than in spring training.”

    Alvarez was unavailable to reporters on Wednesday. Baker said he spoke with the 23-year-old slugger on Tuesday. According to Baker, Alvarez’s spirits “weren’t real good.”

    “I asked him how did he feel and he told me he felt poorly,” Baker said. “That’s about all that he said.”

    Specifics surrounding Alvarez’s injury had been scant and spanned both of the Astros’ regimes.

    Former manager A.J. Hinch and general manager Jeff Luhnow never divulged a reason or diagnosis for Alvarez’s discomfort. Alvarez was sidelined for most of Grapefruit League play this spring with ambiguous soreness. General manager James Click said in February that Alvarez had undergone an MRI that came back clean.

    Alvarez underwent an MRI on Monday, too. According to Baker, that revealed no structural damage. The manager said Alvarez was seeking a second opinion on Tuesday.

    “Sometimes the MRIs and the scans don’t show everything,” Baker said on Wednesday. “You hope that they do, but sometimes they don’t.”

    “You’re not really sure when it happened or if it just happened through deterioration and time,” Baker said. “We really don’t know when it happened, but this is nothing new. This has been bothering him for a while, so we decided to do something about it now.”
     
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  10. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Get him healthy. He has a long career if he can fix this issue.
     
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    Good lord. Since AA. What kind of numbers would he put up in the bigs with 2 good knees?
     
  12. HatsForBats

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    So why did we keep playing him in the field?
     
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  13. Blake

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    Because it was the World Series?
     
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    Verlander has a 40 y/o body.. as does Yordan.

    Difficult to see either having much more of an effective career (save JV going bully).

    Dammit man
     
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    **** you 2020!
     
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  17. Nick

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    Of course you'd rather have an explanation for symptoms vs. "it is what it is".

    Yes, surgery, rehab, and no complications should fix him. This should also hopefully cement his status as a career DH.
     
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    Do we take a flyer on Puig or Vogelbach?
     
  19. Air Langhi

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    Why didn't they catch this last year?
     
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  20. Buck Turgidson

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    No.

    Swinging the bat is worse for your legs than actually playing any position.

    Fix it now, let him sit until next spring/summer.
     
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