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[OFFICIAL] Joe Biden Veepstakes thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Mar 6, 2020.

  1. KingCheetah

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    What's stupid is you not realizing I was mocking your position.
     
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    Well?
     
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    tell that to this one

    this fool doesn't know that
    • in 2016, Kamala Harris beat a popular 10-term Congresswomen, Lorena Sanchez, a fellow Democrat, for Calif's US Senate seat
      • fwiw, i voted for Sanchez
    • Ronald Reagan, the most revered Republican in post WW2 US politics, started his political career in Calif. as did Arnold Swarzenegger
     
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    Lol she was right
     
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    Now lets talk about the death penalty and blocking evidence that would have exonerated a man on death row , aint much worse than that and while we're at it locking people up for smoking pot and cackling like the witch she is when admitting she did the same ....

    That woman is evil
     
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    corrosive one, stay on topic, which is your false claim that it was easy for Kamala Harris to win state-wide elections
     
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    Trump is worse.
     
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    "Kamala Harris' Dishonest Campaign To Destroy Backpage.com"

    "The vice presidential candidate opportunistically painted the site's co-founders as villains when they were actually helping law enforcement to catch sex traffickers."

    https://reason.com/video/kamala-harris-dishonest-campaign-to-destroy-backpage-com/

    Before Senator and former California Attorney General Kamala Harris was chosen as Joe Biden's running mate in the 2020 election, she played a role in a campaign to force a website called Backpage.com to stop operating on the grounds that it was used to facilitate sex trafficking.

    "Backpage.com needs to shut itself down, when it has created as its business model the profiting off of selling human beings and the purchase of human beings," Harris said at a 2012 press conference.

    She would go on to spread misinformation about the site and its co-founders, Michael Lacey and James Larkin, and she co-filed criminal charges that were quickly dismissed but succeeded at garnering headlines and photo ops that raised her political profile. In reality, Backpage.com had become a powerful tool for law enforcement to help catch sex traffickers because of the cooperation and commitment of the site's founders to that cause, whom Harris and many other states' attorneys general had painted as villains.

    Reason's Elizabeth Nolan-Brown revealed secret Justice Department memos showing prosecutors spent years trying to build a child sex trafficking case against Backpage but failed "to uncover compelling evidence of criminal intent or a pattern of reckless conduct regarding minors." Instead, Justice Department officials found Backpage was "remarkably responsive" to law enforcement requests and proactively sent ads containing minors to authorities

    The memos revealed a story that didn't match the characterization that Harris and other politicians, attorneys general, and activists had been pushing for years.

    This is an excerpt from a longer documentary, available here.
     
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    Trump news is as bad as Trump and his son's with their mocking of Biden. MAGA clowns act like Trump is a good speaker.

    Here's to you hypocrites

     
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    She may be. I'm not happy with her blocking the evidence. I think something is truly messed up about that.


    But she's not in the same stratosphere as the current President...

    I'll still vote for his opponent no matter what. *Shoulder shrug*
     
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    "Kamala Harris on the Second Amendment":

    https://reason.com/2020/08/26/kamala-harris-on-the-second-amendment/

    excerpt:

    Kamala Harris on the Second Amendment
    A 2008 brief that she signed (1) argued that a total handgun ban was constitutional, and (2) strongly suggested that the Second Amendment doesn't secure an individual right.
    EUGENE VOLOKH |THE VOLOKH CONSPIRACY | 8.26.2020 8:02 AM

    In 2008, Kamala Harris signed on to a District Attorneys' friend-of-the-court brief in D.C. v. Heller, the Supreme Court's leading Second Amendment case. Of course, she may have changed her views on the Second Amendment since then (perhaps in light of precedents such as Heller); and she may have different personal views than the ones she expressed as a D.A. (though note that she signed on to the brief as a signatory, and not just as a lawyer for the signatories). But this brief likely tells us something about her views on the Second Amendment.

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    So, to summarize:
    1. Kamala Harris, as D.A., definitely endorsed the view that a total handgun ban didn't violate the Second Amendment.
    2. She also seemed to endorse the view that the Second Amendment secures only a "collective" or "militia-related" right, and not the individual right that the Court ultimately recognized in D.C. v. Heller.
    An article by Cam Edwards (Bearing Arms) on Aug. 11 made a similar argument in concluding that"Kamala Harris Doesn't Think You Have the Right To Own a Gun" (to quote its original title), but an Agence-France Press "Fact Check" on Aug. 18 labeled that claim "false." I find the "Fact Check" quite unpersuasive, at least as to the specific question of Harris's views on the right to own a gun.

    AFP writes, "Rather than outright opposition to gun ownership, Harris has supported legislation aimed at increasing safety." It may well be that Harris wouldn't promote a statute banning guns outright. But her brief states that she thinks governments have the constitutional power to ban at least all handguns, and likely guns more generally.

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    . . . I agree that (1) the amicus brief does take that the Second Amendment doesn't protect any "private rights," and (2) we can't be certain that this remains her view today. But it is at least plausible that her views about the subject haven't changed, and that if she could participate in reshaping the Supreme Court, she would reshape it in favor of reversing the Heller decision, and moving the law back to a view under which "the Second Amendment … doesn't relate to private rights."
    more at the link

     
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    This isn't surprising at all.

    She has even changed what she believes or supports politically over the last 4 years.

    I don't blame the Republicans for pointing out the policy inconsistencies but I think most paying attention already know that she is far from an ideological person.

    Ultimately I don't think her positions matter much being VP (although Biden is as old as dirt) but Biden isn't an ideological person either and there is a lot to mine there.

    I think Trump needs to hit Biden really hard on China. Biden will counter that Trump isn't hard on China and that the situation with China has changed and he will be hard on China. Still, it is one of the areas I think Trump can beat Biden.
     
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  20. adoo

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    right on time, OT parroting the newest Trump campaign talking points, just as i have predicted

    how pathetic, an incumbent POTUS too scare to run on his record




    that'd be an easy one to counter.

    all team Biden has to do to to re-play the video of Trump praising Xi/China's good work and "transparency" in handling COVID 19,
    as well as itemizing the copyrights that the PRC has granted to the Trump company (including escort services) and Ivanka
     
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