Yep once u find that u have no valid defense for such a sht trade, u go and project on what u love to 2 do. Theres really no defense for this trade, every competent gm has been able to trade a disgruntled talented player for at least a first round pick. When the majority of the nfl community outright grades this trade as a sht one and u r still defending him. u r literally just hopeless beyond redemption.
Y do u even need to explain? Its a sht trade, no amount of backward ass logic can justify that it was a good one. A disgruntled but the best wr got traded for a a second round pick and a meh running back. U claim u hate it , but u r defending the trade day in and day out. Yet We traded two first round picks for a guy that isnt even the greatest person at his position yet we cant even get one first round pick from the greatest wr. Do u even know y people regard u as a BoB dick rider? U go above and beyond to defend him for literally every move. U told me to wait until the offseason to judge how sht gm/coach BoB is at his job so u should just stfu and either one admit it or literally be quiet. Telling people to go find another team is just u admitting that u were wrong and basically flipping over a game when u lost.
Na.....I have an issue with a guy who doesn't understand that you don't have to HATE the Texans because Bill O'Brien is there.
Posters don’t hate the Texans. The hate the decisions that BOB make and that’s okay to do. That’s why we are here. If everyone agrees then what’s the point of the website? Your insults to posters are a little extreme. You haven’t done that to me but I do feel you are going too far. Let people have their opinions without you insulting them. At the end of the day, nobody is going to meet up and fight about it and if they did, they’d look even more stupid.
That guy started the insults months ago. So, I just respond with insult and ignore his football takes...because they are booty anyway. The Thing is......O'Brien's moves do have a logic, though you and I may not agree with, make sense for the Texans. Again...it is his neck on the line.
No idea who started it but that doesn’t matter. We too old for that. If somebody has a bad take just give your reason why it’s bad. The more you disagree, the better the debate. That’s what makes it exciting. You most ALOT and sometimes your bad takes make this exciting. I’m sure you feel the same about other posters. Let’s keep this thing nice and sweet.
If You don't agree with Billy Bob the guy gets frustrated. It's mostly amusing to watch someone defend Billy Bob like immediate family though.
It has nothing to do with BoB moves per se, has to do with the repetitive whining. We get it. Repeating the same thing over and over with uninformed takes gets old. If you can’t understand why BoB does something even you don’t like it, then u are wasting time. I see both sides. I will let it play out. If it doesn’t work, BoB will be fired.
B'ob would, hell he traded two 1sts and a 2nd for Tunsil so he could turn around and have to pay him 22 mil/yr. Funny how all the reasons you stated for Obien's low compensation on the Hopkins deal doesn't seem to apply to Bobs other moves, like trading a 2nd for a WR with concussion issues and who's coming off a down year. And don't even give me that crap about LT being valued higher than WR. While that's true, it's not to the tune of 2 first rounds picks more value.
Do you not understand draft capital? Say the Texans kept their picks and had to trade up for A tackle with the quality of Tunsil. It would have cost the #26 this year and their # 1 next year atleast. 2 #1s. Really it is 1 - #1 with a swap of another 1. So, basically the same for Tunsil. The difference is Tunsil is proven. Cooks concussion issue is over blown. He had the light grade of concussion and didn’t miss games.
This is really skirting the main issue but i'll bite. First off, why is it necessary for the Texans to have to trade up to begin with? Crazily enough, franchise left tackles have been picked at 26 before, maybe you remember a guy named Duane Brown? An even crazier idea would be to maybe not have to draft a Left tackle at all and see if Howard, the guy who you just spent the 20th overall pick on see if he can be the answer, he was arguably our best lineman before he went down and was thought of as a left tackle prior to the draft. And the best part, none of these options cripple you financially and force you to trade away HOF talents for little in return. We now have three 1sts, a 2nd and over 75 million tied up in two tackle spots, it's a ridiculously inefficient use of resources.
Tunsil, before the gas mask video, was going Top 3 in the Draft that year. There was no tackle in this draft as good as Tunsil was coming out. Yes, they had Howard. However, they didn't want to put a rookie at LT. Plus, you still needed ANOTHER tackle. The top OTs went in the 1st 11 picks, the other 1st round Tackle went at 18. So, you would have had to move up to get Tackles in the same range as the Tackles the Texans have now. You are paying Tunsil for a PROVEN blindside protector over a Rookie, who may or may not work out. You wanted to risk Watson another year on that? They would have started Kahlil at LT and Howard at guard to start the season last season...UGH. Howard was MUCH better at RT. Texans are not financially crippled.
We can argue about the merits of the Tunsil trade all day, and yes I agree the Texans were absolutely desperate for a LT at the time. Why they were desperate is another issue I have with B'ob. He dicks around with premium positions like QB and LT for years by not investing any high picks and then later on is forced to grossly overpay to fix them so that we don't go into a season having to start Tom Savage or a Matt Kalil at those positions. Yes, we may have found the solution to those problems but at much greater cost than we should have, inefficient use of resources, and it's going to catch up to him. My main point was that you can't defend the Hopkins trade for the reasons you stated and then still be happy about what we gave up for Tunsil. You do these mental gymnastics and give these reasons why the market was so bad for Hopkins, wanting new contract etc, but ignore that those factors didn't drive down the value of Amare Cooper who the cowboys gave a first for, isn't as good as Hop, and they had to give him a 100 million. And it obviously didn't drive down the market for Tunsil, who everyone knew was going to be given a blank check as soon as he got here. These factors only seem to apply when B'ob is getting fleeced.
Cooper was still on his rookie deal. He is 2 years younger than Hopkins. When player are on rookie deals, you get higher value because you get control for franchise tags. The problem with Hopkins he signed an extension and had 3 years left on that extension. Teams HATE having players try to get a new deal with that much time. Dallas was bidding against themselves on the Cooper contract. That contract is really a $60 million/3 year contract. The difference with Tunsil.....The Texans got 2 years of team control....no matter what...on his rookie deal. Franchise LT's do not become available at 24 with 2 years left on their deal. IT ALMOST NEVER HAPPENS. The Texans were not the only team after Tunsil, but they offered a deal the Dolphins couldn't refuse.
If Mental gymnastics was an event, scarface would b great at it. Pulls rando sht/scarface logic out of his ass to justify grossly overpaying asset/money for tunsil. Use an entirely different logic to justify the sht hopkins trade. Conclusion: he gonna spin any move to make BoB look competent. Texans are not financially crippled yet couldnt afford to pay Hopkins, one of the best wr money, just laughable.
O’Brien is immature and a hot head, not an ideal trait for running a football team. Dude is widely considered to be a joke who has accomplished absolutely nothing in terms of football. He has a lot of growing up to do, hopefully he won’t be doing that here much longer
