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Iran nuclear talks: 'Historic' agreement struck

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Jul 14, 2015.

  1. GladiatoRowdy

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    No, you're the stupid one. You actually believe the pundits rather than the IAEA.

    Yet again, bigpuffery proves he is a sheep.
     
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  2. Invisible Fan

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    Aspersions are different than calling names. When I say that you're "not grounded in reality" or making "speculative leaps" it's because you constantly bring up Brother Barack as a Muslim agent when there's definitely a schism in the Arab world about this deal. Oh right, Brother Osama clearly let ISIS slip in the back door (...or should I say Barack door?).

    I'm not going to spell it out for you, but those two claims doesn't really fit together. Mooslims aren't really a big tent. If you treat it so, then Barack is a loose boogeyman waiting to fulfill your every fears and conspiracies.

    Israel is a powerful lobby. Dealing with Iran will be seen as a sign of weakness for those who think we can destroy or regime change their government. We can't and we haven't for the last 35 years. Let that settle in for a minute.

    In the meanwhile, we've been backing Iran into a wall thinking that a large nation state can be put in the corner like a misbehaving child while the rest of the world changes. No matter what 1st world restrictions we put on them, they can still deal with China, Russia and other similar minded nations.

    If we keep them stuck in time, such as stealing...er holding money that they've pretty much earned and is their right, then the response we get are those blood thirsty bandits we've seen since the 80s. They're not going to turn out A-OK like Cuba because of the neighbors they have, the oil under them, or the fact that they were once a great civilization.

    Nor are any American willing and able enough to start another Middle East war with troops on the ground, which is why Nettanyahu is the dangerous one because him blowing his **** could force the US into decisions no American has chosen nor decided upon.

    If you want, you can search my comments on this thread.
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/search.php?searchid=543178

    My concern isn't whether you read what I wrote. I'm just saying, there are people who read the deal and took time to spell it out for their readers to decide. They don't have to rely on pundits or reports to piggyback on their articles.

    Maybe looking at the source is a good idea here rather than going through my quotes?
     
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  3. Amiga

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    Senator Carper of Delaware came out today to officially support the deal. I think he wrote elegantly about his support here.

    It's a good read.

     
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    I don't get why all these people think they know something that military and security service leaders in both Israel and the US don't, who have spoken out in support of the deal.

    There's no reason to be against the deal unless it's politically advantageous to benefit from outrage from within your base.
     
  8. CometsWin

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    Not only that but the $100 billion they keep talking about isn't being held in the US. The countries holding that money could realize it whenever they want, deal or no deal. In fact it's quite possible if the U.S. were the lone hold out in the deal that money would be released anyway.
     
  9. Anticope

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    They oppose it for purely political reasons and the rhetoric from the right on this specific issue has gotten completely out of control. A large number of GOP leaders have claimed that this deal somehow fast tracks Iran’s ability to get a nuclear weapon without providing a shred of proof of that and the truly sad thing is that we live in a political environment now where they don’t even have to provide any proof. Their constituents will just eat it up and go to battle with whatever talking points are fed to them. They’ve even busted out what they think are their big guns in Dick Cheney on this issue. However, a good lesson that I’ve learned over the past 15 years is that if Dick Cheney agrees with you, then you are probably very wrong.
     
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    Pathetic.
     
  13. Invisible Fan

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    Cheney needs to stfu and gtfo already.

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  14. rocketsjudoka

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    It's the Bizzarro world where we are at.
     
  15. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Just like our resident conservatives, they think they know better on any subject matter based on what they read in a blog.

    Whether it be climate change, race, economics, nuclear bomb making - they know more than scientists, experts, inspectors, researchers, and especially anyone that disagrees with them.


    The truth is irrelevant to these people. They are the vocal ignorant minority that wrecks havoc. Amazing how dangerous a vote can be when coupled with gross willful ignorance.
     
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    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/XzCDdXkwe28" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Pretty spot on. It's a bit oversimplified, but that's what happens when you try to combine 60+ years of history into 9 minutes. I'm sure people will gasp and say OMG that is propaganda and not accurate....but it is reality.
     
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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/zfpUhWRkWRY?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    I know Levin is a troll but he needs to learn some history starting at 1:15.
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Scary that people actually watch that distorted garbage as the truth.
     
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    ^^^^^
     

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