Your rationalization is amusing. There won't be evidence unless they actually try and make a serious effort. Since we all know this won't happen, you can argue your point indefinitely.
That assumes that the reason that demographic votes as one single bloc is because of a lack of effort by other parties. I simply reject that theory becuase there are other groups that aren't specifically courted that sway from party to party. The candidate doesn't matter, the policies don't matter, that demographic just checks off the name that has a D next to it, nothing else. If there were more to it than that you'd see different results just like you do with every other demographic. It is what it is.
It's your choice to absolve Republican behavior on the national level the last 30-40 years for why blacks loathe them.So, your mind is made up. Why even try to change it. "It is what it is".
Blacks did vote in larger numbers for the GOP after the civil war and even into the beginning of the 20th century. It wasn't until FDR that these numbers turned around and even then, nearly 30% voted for the GOP. Once the Republicans embraced out and out racists, we saw the black vote go to 80-90% Democrat and we won't see that turn around until the party stops courting racists. http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/blacks-and-the-democratic-party/
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No it isn't. Historically speaking, the GOP enjoyed significant support from African American voters up until after WWII when the Civil Rights movement took shape. During the 1950s and early 1960s, there were a number of moderate and liberal Republicans who supported ending the vestiges of Jim Crow and legal segregation. Without their support, the 1964 Civil Rights Act would never had passed. It all began to change with the 1964 election where an arch conservative Barry Goldwater forced the GOP to veer sharply to the right in much the same way Trump is doing so today. By the 1968 election, Nixon had crafted his "Southern Strategy" that sought to harness white resentment in the South against the Civil Rights movement as a means to split these people from the Democratic Party. By doing so, he adopted the script from the ill-fated presidential campaign of segregationalist George Wallace which demonized the Civil Rights movement and its consequences. Wallace represented the so-called Dixiecrats (anti-civil rights) wing of the Democratic Party and it was Nixon's objective to migrate them over to the GOP thereby weakening the Democratic coalition. The GOP has stuck to this approach in order to win elections ever since. The net result of this approach has led to a steady dwindling of minority support for the GOP which reached historic lows due the 2008 & 2012 elections. While the GOP may pay lip service to the ideal of expanding the base of the party, the reality is that they simply have no use for or desire to appeal to minority voters - choosing instead to demonize, stereotype and marginalize this constituency in order to appeal to the ultra conservative wing of their party. That's the REAL reason that the demographic as you put it chooses to vote Democratic in overwhelming numbers. It simply makes little to no sense at all to support a political party whose primary goal is to treat you badly politically and socially and chooses to pursue policies that are detrimental to your well-being..
I don't doubt that propaganda like that is part of what ensures the Democratic party owns that demographic. As a result of that outright ownership, no one pays any attention to that demographic at all, their vote is just assumed. As long as the Democratic party has ownership of that demographic and they show no willingness to consider any other options, why would ANYONE spend money or effort courting that vote?
There is evidence that a large group of white GOP voters who vote largely on the basis of racism, it makes sense for the GOP to just chalk off the black vote or otherwise they will put these white voters in play for the Dems when they don't see the GOP as being sufficiently racist. Note due to numerous voter suppression tactics aimed at the poor, minorities the young voters do not tend to be the same demo as the population as a whole. In general voters tend to be disproportionately older and whiter.
I think you're right about the Democrats -- there's no motivation to go hard after the black vote when the Republicans are pushing that vote to you anyway. All they need to do is basic maintenance. But, the Republicans could actually break the voting bloc among blacks and especially imo among hispanics if they would just try. But they don't try. In fact, it looks like they are actively discouraging both of these groups from voting for them. They probably do that because the payoff does come back quickly enough -- they'd rather have the poor white vote today (their own bloc they can take for granted) than the growing hispanic vote tomorrow -- but it seems so obviously self-defeating in the long run. If Republicans would just try to stop being so hostile, minority groups wouldn't vote in such blocs anymore.
I agree, As mentioned earlier a good portion of conservatives are racists so whenever the candidates push them away they get more support from poor whites and racists.
I said this earlier in this thread and it's the reason stopped posting so much. What's the purpose of discussing anything with people who refuse to acknowledge anything no matter how credible the source. You are never gonna change their minds and the thread will just keep repeating itself because the same people would rather remain willfully ignorant than face the truth.
Propaganda? Hardly. I could cite numerous examples of political stances taken by this current group of Republican presidential candidates that are deliberately hostile toward minority citizens that were done so with the express objective of appealing to white voters. Setting aside Trump's obvious statements about Mexican immigrants you have Jeb Bush's missive on "Anchor Babies", Chris Christie pledging to bring back "Stop and Frisk" practices that unfairly target minority citizens, Ted Cruz (whose citizenship is itself questionable) supporting the forced deportation of over 11M people, their support of deliberate policies designed to restrict the ability to vote and oh, let's not forget their new "narrative" that the "Black Lives Matter" movement is somehow responsible for recent high profile deaths of police officers. Yet according to your position, this is all baseless propaganda concocted by the Democratic Party who then spoon feeds it to gullible minority voters who, in and of themselves, are simply too dumb to realize that it's actually in their self interest to vote for a party that wants to forcibly deport them from this country, criminalize themselves and their families and restrict their civil rights and liberties.
Trump is a complete douchebag. No ideological core, no class, dishonest, vain, stupid... I don't get the infatuation with him. The only reason I see to cast a vote his way in the primary is as a middle finger to the party. Which is not a bad reason, I suppose, that middle finger is well deserved. But really, the guy could actually win the nomination and actually win the general against a bruised Billary... And that is a scary thought. He's not too far off from a fascist, and would a fascist *really* be any better than a communist? My middle finger will be embodied by either Cruz or Carson. At least those two have fairly coherent policy ideas. And neither seems to feel the need to constantly and unnecessarily insult... everyone. If he's the nominee then I will, for the first time in nearly two decades, not be voting for the Republican at the top of the ticket. I will go Libertarian. Or I will just stay home, which will cost those down the ballot. And I won't be the only one by any stretch. So listen to this guys, when you're losing treeman's vote as the Republican, you're *really* doing something wrong.
That's exactly his appeal. America is probably as far on the "throw all the bums out" spectrum as it's ever been. The minute you're in office, you're hated, no matter what your views. It started bubbling in 2010 with the tea party throwing out fairly long-time conservative Republicans (like the Utah guy), but now it's spread much more across the party. I don't think its coincidental that the two non-politicians (Trump and Carson) are leading the polls, and why Fiorina was the winner of the secondary debate last time around. Not sure it will last through the primaries themselves, but for now, it seems like voters are simply saying they simply hate politicians in general, regardless of views.
I don't follow Republicans or Elections in general but who are the leading Repub candidates? I can only assume they lack the charisma and passion as well as the education and knowledge of Obama
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/trump-soars-poll-30percent/2015/09/10/id/684070/ Trump over 30%, followed by Carson at 19% and Bush at 9%.
I think it's a little more complicated than that in Trump's case. Yes, the "throw all the bums out" "we hate all politicians" anger is a part of it, but there's a reason he is trouncing Carson, is well ahead of where Herman Cain was, is trouncing Fiorina, etc. Trump appeals to the nativist segment of the party that feels like America is being taken away from good, hard working white folks. He also appeals to the segment of society that thinks we've gone soft as a country because you get criticized for hurting people's feelings. The backlash against "political correctness" often stems from the belief that those things are true. Oh, to return to the 1950s when men were men, women were women and black people were...well...you get the idea. I know a strong tea party person who pointed to the shooting of the sheriff's deputy recently and said "this is what happens when you let them get away with whatever they want, they turn back into animals!" A chunk of the Republican base, maybe it's the full 30% that Trump has really believes that black people get away with everything, that affirmative action makes it so they take jobs that belong to white people, that illegal immigrants are the source of nearly every problem, etc.
