She looks like a person that would actually be involved in a same-sex marriage. Don't fight it Lil Kim, go with the flow. Doesn't the bible also state that you are not to pass judgement and exude hate onto others......... I guess she completely thru that part out the window. I just hate hypocrites, so convoluted.
They aren't the same. The Muslim attendant wasn't refusing to allow other attendants serve the drinks. And if she is telling the truth, the airline allowed for her exemption. Her situation is actually a worthwhile debate. Kim Davis doesn't have to issue the marriage licenses, she just has to allow the staff in the clerk's office to do so.
Probably. There's no reason for her to still be in jail. Gay people can get married now, she's not preventing anything. The only reason to stay in jail now would be to make herself a martyr and try to capitalize on it once she gives in and resigns. Maybe not a bad idea considering she'll be out of a job and will need the money.
I haven't followed this story too carefully, but now that she's in jail, is the staff issuing marriage licenses? Can there be a new court order to allow them to do so?
Oh, so she's not allowing her department to issue the license? I just thought she herself wasn't doing it. This is different. In this case, she has no leg to stand on. (Clearly, I don't know the particulars of this story or county clerks in general.)
This happens everyday It is nothing new And if she make bail . .then she can go to work and break the law again . . .right? Rocket River
If it's in her job description to issue the licenses, she should do it and not delegate that job to her staff. If she can't fulfill her duties, she should be fired from her job. She should have to repay her 2 months of salary where she refused to do her job.
Her deputy sheriffs resumed issuing licenses on Friday and now apparently she is going to be released so we will see what happens from here. Apparently from the beginning she took the position of not issuing marriage licenses to any couples (gay or straight) in order to justify her position as not discriminating against only same sex couples. This position did not hold up in courts for obvious reasons. As someone previously mentioned, she'll now be elevated to conservative hero status, probably write a book and make some Fox News appearances. Considering that this woman is obviously as dumb as a box of rocks, it might not be a bad career move for her.
She'll be embraced as a republican hero. It's sickening. It's only a matter of time till she appears on Fox. What's worse is to hear her speak on the issue itself. She wants to hinder a process because it's too much for her simple mind to handle.
Her department began issuing licenses last Friday, saying that she had intimidated them into not doing so prior to her jailing. Her attorneys also threatened that because she had not signed off on the licenses issued, they were invalid. It's a lot of rhetorical saber rattling. Somebody earlier mentioned this being a lot of bluster about losing privilege more than anything else. I typically hate that word and its application in debate, but I can see it here. What I fear is that in their knee-jerk reaction to a Supreme Court decision that violates their imagined faith-based society, religious activists are going to open a can of worms and allow anybody to erode the civil balance we've struck in America since 1776. Imagine an Orthodox Jewish clerk at a permitting office who keeps kosher denying a building permit to a cheeseburger stand because he doesn't believe in mixing meat and dairy. Would that be within his rights? Certainly not, as a government official cannot be seen as sanctioning behavior based on personal religious conviction.
Surprisingly, there's been very little debate on this. Have we found the one issue where Clutchfans D&Dr's almost universally seem to be on the same page (almost)?
Kim Davis Freed From Jail in Kentucky Gay Marriage Dispute http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/09/us/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage.html?_r=0 Kim Davis, the Kentucky county clerk who was jailed last week after she defied a court’s order that she issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, was ordered released on Tuesday. In a two-page order issued Tuesday, the judge who sent her to jail, David L. Bunning of the Federal District Court, said he would release Ms. Davis because he was satisfied that her office was “fulfilling its obligation to issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples.” Judge Bunning ordered that Ms. Davis “shall not interfere in any way, directly or indirectly, with the efforts of her deputy clerks to issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples.” He said that any such action would be regarded as “a violation” of his released order. Reports of Ms. Davis’s pending release came shortly ahead of visits planned by two Republican presidential candidates, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas, and a rally in support of Ms. Davis. A handful of local schools were closed Tuesday as the streets of this small town, population 4,200, near the border with West Virginia, swelled with traffic. Scores of people gathered outside the jail hours before Mr. Huckabee’s speech was scheduled to begin. Many people sat in lawn chairs they brought from their homes, while a man used a megaphone to urge people to repent. Streets were crowded as traffic slowed, and one entrepreneur offered parking spaces for $20 each. On a street near the squat jail, demonstrators lined up along the roadway, where a sign leaned against a truck and read, “Judges Don’t Make Laws And Are Not Above The Law.” “This is not a political campaign, and I don’t want it to be and neither would Kim,” a lawyer for Ms. Davis, Mathew D. Staver, said of the rally. “This is an event to honor God. It’s an event to stand with Kim and ask for Kim to be free.” In a matter of days, Ms. Davis, 49, who was first elected county clerk last year, has vaulted from obscure local official to national lightning rod in the debate over gay marriage. She has become a hero to Christian conservatives who oppose same-sex unions, and a caricature of rural backwardness to people who support it
Religion has jumped the shark. This woman won't even need to write a book. The religious bigots will be waiting in line to hand her free cash.
You can't be fired from an elected position. Where are the usual suspects of resident right wingers to defend her?
What if every Jew in the world got jobs.at hamburger place and refused to sell burgers with cheese because their religion said don't mix beef and dairy? What if every Muslim in the world got jobs at quickie marts and liquor stores, and wouldn't sell alcohol to anybody else because their religion prevented them from drinking? In either case, would they be protected in their job? Nobody's making this fat cow marry another woman. Like I saw somewhere else, this like going on a diet, and throwing a tantrum every time you see someone else eating a donut.
