Black Lives Matter is an honorable movement and is in no way racist

I mean, if you want to get nitty-gritty, you could split up the subcultures even further. One could go on, well, for a long time, really. I get what you are saying.

You are right. I used a wrong word. Is ethnicity a better choice?

 

Actually this is not true. The studies done by Harvard show that people in general hold African Americans to be suspicious and threatening.

And the stats also show that a black person is more likely to be stopped and searched for a routine traffic violation - AND LESS likely to be found with any additional illegal activity - that's not considered loose correlation.

It just seems like you don't want to accept even the possibility that the legal system has racism in it.

 

Small sample opinion poll

That's exactly what it is.....tell me you know that.

Oh well with such iron clad evidence as small sample opinion polls and loose correlations how could I think anything other than that "the man" is simply out to get black people?

 

It wasn't an opinion poll and that is not considered loose correlation. I don't think you know what these things even are based on how you are using them.

Correlations refer to trend lines or a series of data points. That's not what this is. If cops are more likely to search blacks and less likely to find something, that indicates bias. Let me ask you this - what other explanation would you have to explain that?

The Harvard study was not based on opinions but rather reaction. It's a scientific study and not a CNN opinion poll.

Your efforts to dismiss data shows you yourself have bias. I really do think this is how you warp your reality to accept racism.

 

I didn't make the ratio, how the hell did I make the ratio? The ratio exists independent of what you or I think.

The incidence of black single parent households has risen at 300% of white single parent households for over a hundred years, period. The context is America and the question, which none of you seem to want to answer, is why. bmd wants to blame such and such on the lack of two parent families in the black community but he's completely unable to explain why that's the case except for rap music and big wheels on cars of course.

I have no idea how you've managed to make something so simple into something that you don't understand. Whatevs.

 

CW, seriously you are asking this questions???? You are smarter than that. Do you not really see the problem???? While I disagree with you on well, EVERYTHING, this one is really easy. Welfare has replaced the father in the black household as well in some white households. That is the great tragedy of the welfare system. Welfare should be a hand up to help someone to their feet when they fall rather than a way of life. The Democrats use it as a way to create a dependency class to buy votes.

 

SMH... I don't think you even realize how bad that comment just was.

1. If you are doing a study looking for one's "reaction".....you are essentially looking for their opinion on a selection of things and then drawing conclusions based on correlations found in the opinion data.

2. When you are breaking down officer stops and looking for tendencies....you are making correlations based on the evidence. A correlation being a mutual relation of two or more things.

In studies like this, if they are done properly, you can find tendencies in the data.....you cannot however prove cause for these tendencies. Finding that objects or scenarios are correlated does not and can not prove causation. There are an infinite number of uncontrollable variables when you do polls or try to analyze arrest records or stop data.

Any number of correlations can be found....but to a hammer everything is a nail which is to say confirmation bias is a b****.

 

I answered it. It's related to the change in culture about 50 or 60 years ago. There were great changes to the American culture as a whole, and it brought on new and radically changed subcultures. This change in culture affected every group of people and changed values in every group of people but not equally. Based on data, it would appear that the black community was hardest hit by the negative consequences of these changes in values.

 

You are trying to define science and logic.

1. The study is not taking an opinion poll. It was not an opinion - you don't even know the study or have tried it yourself so you have no idea what you are talking about. You are clearly ignorant.

2. It is a fact that blacks get searched more and are found innocent at a higher rate than whites. That is not a correlation. It is reality. You have yet to come up with a single reason to account for this fact.


You are attacking things with nonsensical arguments. You're a fool. Probably borderline idiot. I'm the fool for trying to even debate with you.

 

LOL, fair enough, since you don't know what words mean I suppose it's best to end this conversation. I do hope one day you learn the meaning of words so that you can have more productive conversations.

When you show someone a series of things and ask them how they feel about them....is it unfair to suggest you are asking their opinion of the objects? LOL, of course it is.

When you point out the tendency for black people to be searched more often, is it unfair to suggest that you are suggesting a relationship between people getting pulled over and their race?

You are the only person that can help yourself.

 

lol. I find it funny how you spend inordinate amounts of energy finding flaws in survey methodology, then you can fully back something as anecdotal and self-contrived as "silly names" to explain systematic differences in employment or something as opaque and unsupported as your vague "culture changes" to explain a variety of data points.

Even in instances where statements of explicit racism are included with systematic data you suddenly go off the handle on "tin-foilism".

Here's another example of how the legal system treats African-Americans--perhaps the "survey pool" is large enough.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/29/magazine/voting-rights-act-dream-undone.html

 

ok you can just shut up now.

 

Can somebody please explain to me what "African culture" is?

Last time I check we are the most diverse group of people on the planet, countless ethnic groups on the continent and hundreds off of the continent as a result of various diasporas.

So wth is this singular "African Culture" I keep hearing about?

 

Tea Party freaking nutball bull****. I swear. Lol

 

If you work full-time at Walmart and have a family, you are going to qualify for welfare. That's right, most people on welfare work full-time.

You can't live off of welfare alone - it's not enough. You have to combine it with a job. Either on the books or off of it. But this idea that people just sit at home while collecting welfare checks is a conservative lie.

 

I stand corrected, you are not smarter than that. I am sorry for your ignorance (it must be the white mans fault????).Continue on with your socialist ideas.

Fpr actual statistics on the matter, please refer to the chart below which show black fatherless households increased dramatically in the 60's. You can see the increase after LBJ's great society in the 60's but please continue with your head in the sand and keep blaming white people. Sometimes you need to actually accept responsibility!!!!!! You are a truly sad person CW.

 

Sweet Lou, black, fatherless households, while higher than white households since the 1950's, starting really increasing after the 60's great society programs. Is that the fault of white people? I am not claiming that welfare is a great life but it does foster fatherless households, the data shows that. People want to blame white people but in a day and age when a black person is president, can you really make that claim. At some point you have to blame the people who are stuck where they are for not working to improve their status. Now under Obama, the labor participation rate has risen to a near all time high despite the deceiving unemployment rates which do not take this important stat into account, but it is everyone's responsibility to work for their own betterment.

 

Blaming white people can only carry black people so far. When do you accept responsibility for not doing your due diligence for not improving your lot in life?????

 

My son was an unmarried birth. So I guess that makes me, my son, and his mother bad people. Wow.

 

you are just straight clipping economic arguments without understanding what they mean. lol.

Here, have some counter-arguments:

http://prospect.org/article/consequences-single-motherhood