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Young black man jailed since April for alleged $5 theft found dead in cell

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by CometsWin, Aug 30, 2015.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I think this is how the modern day racist rationalizing things.
     
  2. Invisible Fan

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    Then we should throw kids in detention for all cases of petty larceny as well.

    Being devoid of empathy, context, or understanding must be blissful, provided of course you don't have that chip on your shoulder.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    So in your mind, "empathy" is blaming other people for what amounts to a suicide? That's an interesting definition.
     
  4. TheRealist137

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    When that suicide is by a mentally disabled person and the suicide occurred under the states watch, they are to blame.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    So you'd have had them tie him to his bed and shove a tube down his throat? That's interesting.
     
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    Did the media try to start a race war when that asian student got wrongfully detained and almost died of thirst?
     
  7. Duncan McDonuts

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    Then who do you hold responsible for his actions? For a child, the parent shoulders the responsibility for minor crimes to teach the child the consequences of their actions. For a serial offender who has a mental condition, do you just look away if he commits a crime?

    He's a grown man, and assuming he's taking his medication, he's fairly competent if he's out in society alone. If he's not competent to be alone, then a family member should have put him in a mental hospital or be with him at all times.

    When he stopped taking his medicine in jail and he could not make competent decisions, the laws should have allowed an approved guardian to visit him. That should be the takeaway from this incident to avoid this loss of life.
     
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    A little off subject for this tone of this thread but why wasn't this guy simply allowed to bond out on a PR bond? After all, we're talking about $5 and not felony bank robbery. Jails simply aren't equipped to handle mentally ill or disturbed individuals. Hell, they can barely keep up with real criminals especially the dangerous ones so acting as de facto mental health wards is a bit out of their job description.
     
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    I never said such a thing. Only people too dumb to think critically deal in binary terms.
     
  10. Remii

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    And when they can't catch them they have to fill the empty cells with whoever they can get. Prisoners = Money...
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    A few reasons.

    1. He had a history of multiple larceny cases, when you are a repeat offender they don't exactly want you out on the streets stealing from others.

    2. The mental health aspect. He was declared mentally incompetent....can't let that guy out on the street.

    Is it not a fairly binary situation though? Guy refuses to eat....how do you get him to eat against his will any other way? Use your amazing critical thinking skills and tell me how you do that. Someone willing to starve themselves to death is someone you aren't going to talk into eating.
     
  12. krnxsnoopy

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    Pulling random numbers out of your ass.:p

    OP wouldn't have posted this thread if it wasn't a 'Young black man'. BOFs are some of the worst fans in the world. as bad as WOFs, AOFs, and LOFs. :p
     
  13. CometsWin

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    They just didn't give a damn and the guy's dead as a result. That's the issue.
     
  14. Baba Booey

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    The issue is also money.

    From early 2014:

    http://hamptonroads.com/2014/01/regional-jails-choice-higher-rates-or-more-inmates

    This doesn't look like a 'for-profit' jail, but money is still looking like a big driving factor.

    #1 As stated, they don't seem to care.
    #2 The way the system is set up, they need "tenants" in the beds.

    We should not have prison systems (private or public) that are monetarily encouraged to have more people locked up for longer periods of time. It's illogical, as Spock would say.
     
  15. Freik

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    Then stop posting it so we don't have to read it.
     
  16. sammy

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    bobby gon bobby. get a grip mane. smfh
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    The guy wanted to die and he's dead as a result. That's actually the issue.
     
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    A mentally insane person wanted to die, you know...because he's mentally disabled.

    a handicapped person is not equipped to make a decision on life and death. It is the states responsibility to protect him and the state failed. It's easy to see yet somehow you are incapable of understanding.
     
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    Yes, I know you wanted them to tie him to a bed and shove a tube down his throat, but I don't think the fact that they didn't do that makes them responsible for the guy's actions. Somehow you have no concept of personal responsibility.
     
  20. Invisible Fan

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    There are many Western countries that takes away a person's individual right to choose if they become mentally ill or unfit by sending them to institutions that work on recovery.

    Up until Nixon, the US was one of those countries.

    Nowadays, we mostly let them loose in the streets or rot in prisons with drug dealers and violent convicts. Apparently that Broken Window costs too much to pick up and fix, and there are enough people who are content with this kind of situation.
     

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