Black Lives Matter is an honorable movement and is in no way racist

I've started to wonder lately how many people of my generation (born 1980) or younger feel like they have been systemic limited by their skin color or that their skin color limited their opportunities in life. I wanted to create a poll but it would be a train wreck of a thread.

 

I am raising/raised my kids to not see color at all but the media, LEOs, Judicial System, black community, liberal groups, etc... is making it very difficult. My kids are constantly surrounded by people grouping others, grouping themselves, calling out other groups, etc... Very frustrating.

 

The answer would be a large percentage do, and there's a mountain of empirical evidence that tends to back it up.

Slavery existed for hundreds of years, and institutionalized discrimination for a hundred years after that.

Even the last 50 years or so have only seen a lessening of overt state-backed discrimination, while the fallout from the previous few centuries worth of policies is there for everyone to see.

It didn't all get erased in 1964.

 

hahaha, good luck with that

 

BlackLivesMatter has a pretty strong radical grounding.

The founders of BLM are supporters of Assata Shakur, who is a cop killer and former Black Panther. Alicia Garza has used BLM to sponsor talks from Malik Shabazz, who has advocated a race war and the killing of police officers. That doesn't even include Angela Davis, etc.

I suspect that most people in BLM are not aware of the radical/racist leanings of Alicia Garza.

 

Not going to work. The fact is that there are real instances of racism against black people in America. This also includes institutional racism.

Burying your head in the sand is as bad as those that take an absolute position.

 

And to claim that these sub-conscious pre-conceived notions just magically vanished after 400 years of it being passed down generation after generation because of some piece of legislation in 1964 is asinine.

And now your typical white conservative shouts racism when we acknowledge that this sub-conscious bias against Black Americans is ingrained within American culture. No amount of legislation is going to solve this problem.

 

I'm not just talking about American blacks.

 

I'd imagine just about anyone who was a failure in life would seek to blame it on whatever external factors possible. People have always loved blaming their failures on others.

People who were successful probably wouldn't use that excuse.

 

Everyone is subject to sub-conscious bias and is snap judged on their outward appearance. I try to be very conscious of my "sub-conscious" thoughts about everything and it is a good exercise to do. However, you can't fixate on everything either. Maybe I'm wrong, but I really think the most healthy and progressive way to deal with racial issues is the way Morgan Freeman put forth in this interview.

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When I heard it awhile back I took it to heart and it does make a difference. Treat people like people first and stop fixating on race. I don't know...it's changed my outlook.

 

See? This is the type of mindset the media has created.

People like Remii literally cannot even fathom the idea that other people face discrimination and racism too. They honestly believe that it's not racism unless a black victim is involved.

 

My point was that it's shameful that ANYONE would get shot while filling up for gas. The fact that he is a cop or not doesn't matter. Ironically, that's the point all the anti-BLM are trying to make even though it's not the point BLM is even advocating!

 

No... I'm saying it's a Police vs Civilian issue and not a white vs black issue. You on the other hand believe a cop getting killed is a racial issue when there are plenty of people of all colors who have complaints about the police.

 

It is an interesting question. It is odd for someone to walk up to a man in uniform and shoot him multiple times for no apparent reason. Based on the political environment the assumption is that he was killed because he was in uniform.

Would the officer have been killed had he been black? I don't know, but I don't think we should assume the answer is "yes". Would the officer have been killed has he been a white man in plain clothes? Not likely.

So while race plays a part (as it does in many things), it appears the reason he was killed was because he was an officer. If new information comes out then perhaps race was a direct reason, but we don't have that.

 

That's what I'm saying... And people complain about all cops. Just look at what was going on in Baltimore and there's a lot of black folks that work in the justice system.

 

You're honestly going to sit here and pretend the same thing would happened if that officer had been black?

 

Yea, because I know a lot of black folks who worry more about black cops than they do white ones... I know I do.

 

Except that many black people that are successful always talk about the extra things they had to do to become successful...

 

And every other successful person just got a free ride and never had to face obstacles because of their race/gender/religion?

 

That isn't unique to black people. Women discuss the same, so do poor people and foreigners that move to the USA. Seldom do I hear a successful person that grew up poor not cite difficulties. It has almost become a meaningless exercise.