I agree. I am not arguing just standing up for guys like Butler who went from specialist to a 20+ borderline allstar in 1 or 2 seasons.
I'm going to assume you're just trolling or baiting here, because I can't comprehend this post otherwise. DMo is the second most efficient post up scorer in the league (admittedly on relatively limited attempts). DMo's postups appear to yield ~.03 ppp less than Harden's isolations and ~.10 ppp more than Lawson's isolations. Perhaps we shouldn't cut DMo out of the offense just yet. It's important that we don't completely rely on Harden's magic to put up points.
At the time, I didn't realize Lawson's efficiency on isolations. I couldn't see it on the chart. Knowing that would have changed my post, for sure. Still, DMo's efficiency is going to go down with more usage. Furthermore, I don't know if posting up necessarily compliments the drive-and-dish game per se. It's not really as much of a no-brainer to me that featuring D-Mo's post game will bring us more success as it was before seeing the stats. I was just throwing something out there for discussion. Your attitude is unwelcome.
DMo's postups add another dimension to our offense, and his ability to step out to the three point line allows for the drive and dish game you referenced. Ideally, we should limit the number of isolation plays and play a team-oriented system, but when we do run isolation plays, it's clear that DMo and Harden are the two best options on the team. Any attitude was perceived, I meant no disrespect.
Not sure if we can definitely say anything just by looking at this. For example given his place on the chart, Luis Scola should be a larger part of the offense wherever he goes, and you know that's not going to be the case. Also, if you look at the similar isolations per game chart in the other thread, Kevin Martin hovers around the same area as DMo does on this post-up chart - high points per possession but low usage. What guys like Scola and Martin have in common are that they are offensively potent within the right conditions, but have weaknesses in their game that keep them from jumping to the next tier. This keeps them from upping their usage rate, I'd imagine. I'm not saying DMo necessarily is cut from a similar cloth, but he hasn't proven to me that he isn't either. Also, maybe it's just me but Howard and Jones doesn't seem to be on this chart. It'd be interesting to compare and contrast.
Howard is on the chart, he's in the "shouldn't be allowed to do what he's doing" spot in the bottom right.
Jones didn't play enough to make the chart but he scored .83 PPP in the post and had about 1.5 attempts per game this year so he'd be right about where Robert Sacre is but further to the left.
Does the chart include free throws and stuff when it looks at points per possession? I'm not quite familiar with how PPS is defined. If it does include it then maybe that's why Howard's is kind of crappy. His FT % is so terrible it could be dragging everything else down.
He shot 53% FT, so as i understand, correct me if im wrong, more than 1 ppp. So hes FT should actually boost his ppp, not nerf it.
Um, the chart is a basic combination of attempts and efficiency, this means that for guys who are in the upper left like Scola, you have to take their efficiency with a grain of salt because if you increase the volume you might see their efficiency go down. On the other hand, the more right you go the more consistent or believable the efficiency is gonna get, for example players like Dwight, LMA, Cousins and Jefferson this is pretty much how efficient they are at generating points in the paint. What does this tell us about DMO? Well unfortunately his high efficiency could be due to his low amount of attempts, if he was really made the focal point of the offense there's a big chance his efficiency will drop because the D will key on him like they do to Howard, LMA and Cousins. The good news is we don't need "Focal Offense DMo", the squad has offensive threats like Howard, Harden and Lawson who will all ensure the defense won't be able to focus on him so its highly likely DMO will keep his efficiency high as long as there are others sharing the offensive load. Even more importantly, post ups are just one dimension to a great offense, Al J has insane post metrics but his teams suck because that's all he does, Big Al can't defend, rebound or pass at a high level. DMO oth is extremely versatile, and I think he can fit the "glue guy" role that Parsons had on the squad as a 3rd option behind HnH with his mix of passing, 3 pt shooting and post ups.
This is true, but they do have numbers for what percentage of the time that a player scores at least one point on post up opportunities and that includes FT's For Howard it's 40.9% For DMo it's 49.4% For Jones it's 41.7% For Smith it's 40.8%
His work ethic has been mentioned numerous times by lots of different people. It's not something new.
He is still young. Dmo is getting stronger each and every season and you can see how incredibly passionate he is. He takes his profession seriously. He works hard, has good footwork, and he is always willing to learn and improve. At first he struggles mainly because he lacked confidence. But you could always tell DMo had the natural talent and is incredibly gifted. He's an agile 7 footer, legit post player, fundamentally sound footwork, and such gifted shooter around the basket. He has all the tools to take over the middle when Dwight reaches his twilight years. He may not be athletic like some of the guys in the league but he can use his skills and fundamentals to dominate the paint. Tim Duncan dominates without using much athleticism.
As many of you know, you can find a stat on NBA.com called Contested Rebound %. I recall Morey using a stat something like this to tout Howard's impact in his first year here. I would think this would genuinely measure how good a rebounder really is, but check out some of these Contested Rebound %'s. I just picked ones of interest. Brook Lopez - 53.7% Jones - 42.7% Howard - 42.3% DMo - 41.8% Josh Smith (HOU) - 41.6% Faried - 41.6% Randolph - 41.1% Love - 37.3% Markieff Morris - 36% LMA - 33.7% Boozer - 32.5% Bosh - 31.3% WTH does this stat tell us? Looks like DMo is not that bad at this stat?? How did Brook Lopez do so well when he is known as a bad rebounder? Is there something I'm missing? Does this stat tell us anything?
Not really, it often reflects how opponents will give up and run back rather than contest, which lowers the contested %. Brook Lopez's probably reflects that too, everyone contest, even unwinnable opportunities.
