Fair enough, but how is the system going to stop defenses from stacking the box given that they know Hoyer can't beat them deep? How is the system going to have any run game at all without Foster given that stacked box? Having Hoyer fail and then switching to Mallett is probably the worst thing that could happen. I'm seriously hoping to be wrong here because if BOB pulled strings to get his guy Hoyer to town and gift wrapped him the starting gig and was wrong about him? That's going to be rough. If Hoyer isn't a completely different QB than he's been his entire career then Mallett better look awful when Hoyer gets pulled. I don't want to be questioning if the Texans had a shot to make the playoffs if not for the decision to start Hoyer based on how he allegedly looked playing catch in OTA's with no pads.
I wonder how much truth there was to all the info Jayson Braddock has been saying for months now. He said constantly that Hoyer has been BoBs guy since we signed him and that Mallet wasn't going to be given a fair chance to win the job.
Have you just started watching football ? Only the most elite wr's ever come into the league and make any kind of impact ,the other 99% take about 3 years until they get it and start showing their true worth. Anyway this thread is about Hoyer , not sure why you keep bringing up a rookie wr
Last year it was "Mallett is a statue who will get sacked way too much... and when he does get off a throw, it will be inaccurate." This year, its "Mallett avoids sacks and has a quick release." Right now, its "Hoyer doesn't go deep and doesn't get rid of the ball fast enough." What will it be next year? Again, I'd say about 75% of being a QB in THIS system has more to do with what goes on between the ears than what a QB is physically able to do. Fitz was also never a threat to beat teams over the top and BOB somehow manuevered him around the stacked defenses to be serviceable. Soup to nuts, that is where Mallett got beat... inability to make the right read at the line and was getting picked off as a result of it. He should have been picked off in the Denver game. As far as the draw play was concerned... BOB gave him a earful enough to the point that it seems they were practically testing (begging) him to be able to recognize the formation and change the play as needed.... can't be a robot monkey out there and expect to excel in this league.
Dropped by to see if something is being said that hasn't already been said countless times already. Nope!
Mallett got a fair shot. People wanted him because he was an unknown, not because he outplayed Hoyer. If he'd obviously played better than Hoyer, that'd be one thing, but he didn't. I don't think either necessarily separated themselves in these preseason games, but the reports from journalists during OTA's and camp were all that Hoyer looked like he had the edge. That wasn't coming from OB or the Texans, that was coming from neutral observers. So I'm inclined to believe Hoyer won it fair and square.
If it was obvious that Hoyer had outplayed Mallett then there would be no controversy. Instead, you have the guy who couldn't hold down the Browns starting job last year being the Texans starting QB this year despite not obviously outplaying the younger guy they already had on the roster that looked good in his one healthy start.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dr. James "Red" Duke Jr., who pioneered the air ambulance service Life Flight, has died at 86. <a href="http://t.co/wzh4VP4sGE">http://t.co/wzh4VP4sGE</a></p>— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) <a href="https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/636353615121223680">August 26, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> I blame this on BOB picking Hoyer over Mallett.
Not sure that it belongs here...more like on its own thread (no offense Bobby), but Dr. Red Duke was one of the greatest Texans of the last century...
I don't think that really had much of anything to do with it. I think their contracts were reflective of the market for each QB. There was more interest from other teams in Hoyer so it took more money to sign him. Not that hard to understand. It's not like Hoyer is making $17M while Mallett is making $3.5M and there's a huge financial incentive to justify Hoyer's contract. No, the difference is only $1.75M/year, which is fairly negligible by NFL QB standards. It's not like Hoyer is making THAT much more. Neither is being paid like a real starting QB.
BOB's comments on Hard Knocks tonight seem to indicate Hoyer was the shoo in before preseason, but he will have about a 4-6 week window before he could get yanked if the team is not producing.
Can we stop acting like BOB made Fitz into a good QB? Fitz was benched in week 10 for a reason. Had Mallett not gotten hurt, I think it's likely Fitz wouldn't have taken another snap all season long. I keep reading this over and over again...that BOB proved his genius by making Fitz so good. I think it's fair to say Fitz played better last year than he did the year before. But if BOB does to Hoyer what he did to Fitz, Mallett will be starting sooner rather than later.
When I refer to that, I mainly am saying that Fitz was a "better" QB than he had been anywhere else (including the years in Buffalo where he was a irresponsible gunslinger that happened to put up some gaudy yardage stats that got him a big contract... despite having losing records and throwing tons of picks). BOB made Fitz serviceable... but by no means was he an upper echelon QB. If he feels Hoyer, who he has more history with and who has more experience in this system, can do better than Fitz... then this team should have a punchers chance (presuming Arian comes back and the defense plays up to its potential). I also don't think BOB would have any problem pulling Hoyer and putting in Mallett if he wasn't effective... he's not pledging his undying allegiance to Hoyer as some here would have you suggest.
I'm not sure it's even accurate to say serviceable, honestly. Serviceable as a backup? Sure. But Fitz was benched for not being effective enough. I'm with you on his willingness to pull the plug on it if it's not working. That seems evident. Hoyer doesn't strike me as a "puncher's chance" kind of QB, honestly.
