still voting for trump, black people can see through the media lies and can relate to trump because cnn, fox news, msnbc, not only hate trump, but they hate black people as well.. just look at how they report the news when it comes to blacks trump is the first consverative i actually believe that wants america to be great, and he will start taking care of our vets and securing the border
When it comes to black issues Trump believes that all of them are economical. Until he says something directly against racism in America I don't really see black people making that hard right turn away from the likes of Bernie, Hillary and Gore. Bernie marched with MLK and a lot black people don't know that once they find that out more support from the black community will go his way.
You will be surprised how far an endorsement from Black Lives Matters and Barrack Obama will go. If Hillary gets the nomination.
Yes, if the pay and working conditions are good enough. Janitorial, landscaping, housekeeping etc. can be dignified work if the conditions and pay are sufficient. That has been the role of unions which conservatives oppose. Honey bear, now a question for you. Do you support the playing off of one race or group of the lower class against each other? Is this the way forward for blacks and especially lower class blacks? Who do you really think keeps working class blacks down more ? Hispanic immigrants or the .1% who oppose unions and higher minimum wages?
A little perspective is needed here as you assume too many blacks are uneducated and uninormed. As time passes, people aren't going to view Trump as a Republican. Or the GOP nominee. He's his own entity, and his arrogance makes sure of that. If Trump makes it to next August, records will break for most number of blacks to vote republican. Obama was black, he increased jobs, but did things get better? Did the quality of life as a whole improve? The answer, poquito, is an emphatic no. Empty, empty numbers. Barack is the Corey maggette of presidents. All stats, with no impact or foresight for the bigger picture Doesn't have the cajones. And that's what people, black, white, brown, yellow, can sense. This isn't a fantasy stats President. This is a guy who's actually intent on change with a clear cut plan, and you'll start to see them as we move forward.
Poor honey bear. He thinks he is going to win the lottery and ID's with billionaires. Maybe the Donald will give you a ride in his helicopter.
LOL, I know you like saying whatever you want but I don't deal in make believe, there is no scenario where Trump takes the black vote from the democratic party. Unless somehow they changed all of their policies. One endorsement and a few speeches from Obama and whoever is the Dem nominee will have that vote. Black people still overwhelmingly support Barrack and also Bill Clinton has a high favor-ability with black people. Donald Trump won't change that even if he is still in it a year from now, which is unlikely.
What kind of life changing differences do you expect in 8 years? Gay marriage, continuation of stem cell research, banking reform, the prevention of the greatest economic depression, an advancement towards a sensible healthcare plan that allows us to join the rest of the civilized war? Sure you could get political and refute a few of the above points based on ideology, but I'm just not seeing what kind of "real life every" change you're looking for, or has happened in previous years, enlighten me perhaps?? As far as Trump having a clear cut plan to making America great, I genuinely believe you are trolling. He hasn't had a single clear cut policy plan besides wanting to forcefully deport every illegal in the country (feasibility factor of 0, lol), and building a wall on the border of Texas (double lolz), not to mention that he recently stated that he gets his foreign policy stance from TV SHOWS! Donald Trump is just a reminder to the rest of the world that American voters are uninformed, ignorant, lazy sheep.
You're going about it wrong. Trump knows it's pointless to talk about policy this early. People know most politicians are full of **** and pandering to demographics, so Trump might as well gain momentum. Play the media like they play you. This is the least naive America's ever been, so traditional games aren't going to work. And that's what Trump does best. He pumped out a specific docket on immigration reform over the weekend. Finding these chupa's is a lot easier than you think. Picture the freedom act for every mexican and Filipino. 11 million people can't hide like Anne Frank. Everything you thought you knew, goes out the door when it's Donald time. And time's a changing, brother. Get with it or be left behind.
You are simply advocating change for the sake of change. Eventually this change has to have some nuance with it.
Let me clarify this so you can understand... It doesn't matter what you call them, they were/are still democrats. And you said 90% of the black voters cast their ballets for the democratic party because the republican party is full of racist and you can only bring up the KKK (which was started by democrats) and some unknown white supremacist groups... Black folks dixk ridin' for democrats because of racism in the republican party is a weak excuse... I hope you can come up with a better reason on why the black community should support democrats. I see you're just another liberal who wants the black vote for your agenda but don't give a F about what black folks have to say and ignore the fact that black folks have supported democrats for the past 50 years while their communities and family structure have been practically destroyed.
Even more reason black folks should approach the democratic party with caution because look what MLK helped them do... MLK was a republican and he (nor his father) didn't endorse any politician until after he went to jail.
Remii and Honey Bear completely downplay the impact of economic policy gains for lower income blacks. After all as Remii says: "I only care about myself and my family, and essentially not other families." A classic modern GOP/"libertarian" position. These guys represent the great elite hope that the relatively smaller percent of blacks making $60 k or more will following many of their white counterparts: identify with the billionaire class, feel that they made it completely as an individual, worry about their taxes going to other kid's school lunches, be concerned higher minimum wages will interfere with the wmart stock in their 401(k) etc. I suppose it was bound to happen, but I praise black culture that continues to frustrate the more selfish part of the governing elite as a much larger number of blacks who have made it still reject the only myself and family matter ethos..
I don't know if you are missing the point on purpose or if everything has to be spelled out for you or what? I mean are you joking? Republicans used to be liberal/progressive they are not now, it's literally that simple. It took awhile, the switch was complete by the 60's during the civil rights era for blacks. I don't know how many times I have to say that racists are conservative and it doesn't matter which party. It's not an excuse it's history. Republicans did not support blacks, blacks switched to democrat that's what happened. I am shocked that I have to explain something that is so clearly a part of history and you are still arguing like I have some type of conspiracy theory going, lol. It's ridiculous. There is a reason why the South was largely Democrat and is now Republican. Social Programs are not seen as conservative, especially the ones that supported black people FDR supported blacks that's when the shift started to happen. "the president (FDR) failed to support an anti-lynching bill and a bill to abolish the poll tax. Roosevelt feared that conservative southern Democrats, who had seniority in Congress and controlled many committee chairmanships, would block his bills if he tried to fight them on the race question." http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtid=2&psid=3447 Those conservative democrats who hated social programs for blacks are now conservative republicans. The Council of Conservative Citizens is just one out of the many hate groups that currently support the republican party. Hate groups have donated to the funds of most of the republican party candidates for president, not to say that all republicans are racists but there way of governing totally ignores systemic racism and would do away with every social program that helps blacks let alone women. Why do you think Chuck Todd asked Donald Trump if he would support Affirmative Action. Trump says yes and everyone was is in shock!! Why? Because conservatives don't support that stuff. That's why he is being called a liberal republican. The Council of Conservative Citizens is a White Supremacist group "The Council of Conservative Citizens, which is based in Missouri, is not well known nationally, but it is a familiar presence in right-wing circles. Over the weekend, the Guardian’s Jon Swaine reported that its leader, Earl Holt III, has donated more than ten thousand dollars to the Presidential campaigns of Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Rick Santorum. And in a follow-up story, Swaine revealed that another twenty Republican politicians also received money from Holt. They include Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, one of the front-runners in the 2016 race; U.S. senators Joni Ernst, of Iowa; Thom Tillis, of North Carolina; Bill Cassidy, of Louisiana; and Tom Cotton, of Arkansas; and Congressman Paul Ryan, of Wisconsin. All told, according to Swaine, Holt has in recent years donated seventy-four thousand dollars to G.O.P. candidates." http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-...mism-problem-goes-beyond-the-confederate-flag
Current members of Congress, state officials, or candidates who received campaign contributions from Earl Holt, president of Council of Conservative Citizens, according to FEC and state filings: Senator Ted Cruz of Texas* – $8,500 – donating $11,000 to Charleston church fund Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin – $3,500 – donating to charity Governor Greg Abbott of Texas – $3,000 – donating to Salvation Army in Austin Representative Steve King of Iowa – $2,500 Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska – $2,000 – donating to community centre Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky* – $1,750 – donating to Charleston church fund Former Senator Rick Santorum – $1,500 – donating to Charleston church fund Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas – $1,500 – returning contributions Representative Louie Gohmert of Texas* – $1,250 – donating to Charleston church fund Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin – $1,250 – donating to Charleston church fund Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa – $1,000 – donating to Charleston church fund Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona – $1,000 – donating to Charleston church fund Senator Thom Tillis of North Carolina – $1,000 – donating to Charleston church fund Senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana – $1,000 Representative Mia Love of Utah – $1,000 – returning contributions Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin* – $1,000 State representative David Simpson of Texas – $750 State senator Konni Burton of Texas – $750 Representative Thomas Emmer of Minnesota – $500 Representative Ryan Zinke of Montana – $500 – donating to Charleston church fund Senator Dean Heller of Nevada – $500 Senator Jim Risch of Idaho – $500 Representative Kenneth Buck of Colorado – $500 Senator Rob Portman of Ohio – $250 – donating to Charleston church fund Representative Mark Sanford of South Carolina – $250 State representative Matthew Schaefer of Texas – $250 Texas supreme court judge Jeff Brown – $250 Former candidates and members of Congress who received campaign contributions from Holt Todd Akin, Senate candidate in Missouri – $3,500 Michele Bachmann, representative for Minnesota and presidential primary candidate – $3,200 Richard Mourdock, Senate candidate in Indiana – $2,500 Mitt Romney, presidential candidate – $2,000 Chris McDaniel, Senate primary candidate in Mississippi – $2,000 Charles Djou, House candidate in Hawaii – $2,000 Josh Mandel, Senate candidate in Ohio – $1,500 Linda McMahon, Senate candidate in Connecticut – $1,500 Allen West*, representative for Florida – $1,250 Ken Cuccinelli, Virginia governor candidate – $1,000 George Allen, Senate candidate in Virginia – $1,000 Rick Berg, representative and Senate candidate for North Dakota – $1,000 Dennis Rehberg, representative and Senate candidate for Montana – $1,000 Mark Neumann, Senate candidate in Wisconsin – $1,000 Sharron Angle, Senate candidate in Nevada – $1,000 Paul Broun, representative and Senate primary candidate for Georgia – $1,000 Rob Maness, Senate primary candidate in Louisiana – $1,000 Quico Canseco, representative and House primary candidate for Texas – $750 Peter Hoekstra, representative and Senate candidate for Michigan – $500 Tom Smith, Senate candidate in Pennsylvania – $500 Dan Liljenquist, state senator and Senate primary candidate in Utah – $500 JD Hayworth, representative and Senate primary candidate for Arizona – $500 Dino Rossi, state senator and Senate candidate in Washington – $500 Philip Eby, state house primary candidate in Texas – $500 Jeff Bell, Senate candidate in New Jersey – $500 Donald Webb, House candidate in North Carolina – $500 Joe Miller, Senate primary candidate in Alaska – $500 Jim Oberweis, state senator and Senate candidate in Illinois – $500 Steve Lonegan, Senate candidate in New Jersey – $500 John Raese, Senate candidate in West Virginia – $500 Conservative campaign committees that received contributions from Holt Senate Conservatives Fund PAC – $1,000 Actright PAC – $1,000 TeaPartyExpress.org PAC – $800 Madison Project PAC – $250
"Conservatives are not, by and large, racists. Racists, by and large, are conservative. Significant elements of the conservative coalition, from the South and elsewhere, were outspokenly hostile to racial minorities. They worked to undercut the civil rights movement and the drive for legal and economic equality. It was described as ideology: Limited government, states rights, even as a matter of personal liberty. But underneath it were primal racial, ethnic and religious attitudes." "Again, not everyone, by and large, who spoke in favor of limited government, states rights and personal liberty are racists. But racists, by and large, held those views, since before the Civil War. Be it flying the Confederate flag, gutting the Voting Rights Act, attacking Obamacare or affirmative action the vigorous ideological debates covered up huge racial conflict." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-brodsky/conservatives-race-and-re_b_7647110.html Yes, in 1868 the Democrats were the racist party. However, what also must be known is that the Democrats were also the more conservative party at the time. The Republican Party, believe it or not, were the more liberal party. http://quietmike.org/2013/12/08/democrats-party-racist-dixiecrats/
"What modern conservatives today are trying to imply is that the KKK and southern segregationists were liberals. This is a complete misrepresentation of historic polarity. From the Civil War up until about 1948, the Southern Democrats were the most conservative wing of the Democratic Party. In fact, Southern Democrats ran the South like one-party states. Republican, mostly liberal, candidates were practically barred from being elected in both voter mindset and electoral system."
