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Black Lives Matter is an honorable movement and is in no way racist

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Aug 9, 2015.

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  1. Invisible Fan

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    There are laws designed to protect children until they reach a certain age because they aren't informed or mature enough to make their own decision. So ultimately, until somehow we evolve to the point of throwing away childhood and adolescence, we also have to consider how the parents ended up the way they did.



    It's very interesting you mention choice. The poor are on a different scale in their hierarchy of needs, so it'd make sense that their choices and priorities are different. I don't think they can all choose to move to a better environment that isn't going to **** and where the police try to avoid at night.

    Bleeding hearts and people with souls are generally open to the idea of expanding options for the underprivileged and poor so that they can eventually make life decisions that you or I have the option of taking, such as relocate, quit work and train for a different craft, long distance travel, or learning an expensive hobby.

    I don't think programs relying solely on welfare are the answer, but recognizing there's a problem with a growing number of a poor underclass that transcends race is a start. Understanding the history of poor blacks and poor southern whites is nice, but how we break out of that cycle towards the bottom takes more than some Tom Cruise inspired mantra of will power and self-responsible decision making.
     
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    You can only choose the paths you're aware of and available to your circumstance. Free will doesn't give you the same education, experiences, and opportunities as someone that doesn't face the same kinds of obstacles which in this case are substantial and long standing. That is why the gap has existed since slavery, not because they're not "choosing to live a virtuous life".
     
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    Bobby, nobody understands what you say because it's mostly nonsense based on your limited experience away from annoying people here.
     
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    Oh, don't get me wrong, you still have the freedom to screw over your children by giving them stupid sounding names....but is it really the right thing to do? Anyway, it doesn't matter to me, I don't plan on screwing over my kids by giving them a stupid name no matter what race they are.
     
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    Don't assume that everyone shares your shortcomings. Just because you don't understand doesn't mean that others will fail to do so.
     
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    Yeah, the problem is it's not really choice if there is consequence as such that you'll get less opportunities.

    It's not right or it's not wrong when it comes to a name. It's pretty similar to the 'choices' that black people have when it comes to hair. For guys cut it off and for women straighten it, if you want to be 'professional'.
     
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    Everything is a choice, the fact that making some choices lead to negative results doesn't change that. Disciplining your children is another choice that some decide not to make despite the negative consequences that often happen down the line.

    Anyway, there's no point debating this, it's a fact that people with stupid names are prone to having difficulties related to their names but if you really want to name your kid Moonbeam the Moon Child....go right ahead.
     
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    You can't possibly believe black people should be infantalized to this degree. You think that the black violent crime rate is so much higher because more people in the black community are either unaware of or have no access to a life that doesn't involve violent crime? I must think much more highly of black people than you do? I'm pretty sure everyone knows you are not supposed to rob people. I'm reasonably certain that the vast majority of unplanned pregnancies do not come from two people, neither of whom knows what birth control is.
     
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    Setting up eternal racist policies not on in the Western hemisphere but those in Australia and New Zealand to no only cripple populations of people but remove them from self-dignity and humanity is a great thing White people did... According to their minds.
     
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    WTF are you talking about? First, there are no eternal racist policies in the US or in Australia and New Zealand. I am no expert on the laws down under, but in the US we first eliminated racist policies and then implemented new racist policies to the detriment of white people. Most recently we have implemented racist policies to the detriment of Asians. Hopefully our new racist policies will be transitory like the old ones were, though with experience on our sides we can hopefully end them more quickly.
     
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    It's not racist if it benefits black people.
     
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    I don't know RR. Can you can be racists when you don't know you are being racists? Unintentional racism. This is probably by far the hardest form of racism to get over in society. Will take generations.
     
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    Is awareness a big problem? And how do you solve that?
     
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    For Bobbie, Stupid Moniker etc. You might want to start following the following hashtag.

    edwin lyngar retweeted


    John Kilby ‏@TheKilbyJoke · Aug 6  Anaheim, CA


    When will Fox and the GOP launch their latest cooperative venture

    #RichLivesMatter
     
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    A little off-the current strain, but as good a place to mention this as anywhere: personally very similar storyline for me, but fairly pertinent as it pertains to "...good choices..."

    The Bail Trap

    Long article...but a couple things stood out for me...

     
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    Institutionalized racism is a form of eternal racism. I know people with Eurocentric backgrounds have a problem owning up to such policies.
     
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    And this is the calling card of the white racist - Racism was over in the 60's, now the problem is that black and brown people just using reverse racism to to succeeding over more deserving poor whites like yourselves.

    Not worth addressing because so out of touch.
     
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    I'm not sure why you're bringing up "brown" people. This is a serious discussion about black people, the only minority that matters and makes news.

    Stop it with the strawman.
     

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