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Was 911 an Inside Job?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROCKET RY, Jul 13, 2007.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/zac9vt3a4Ug?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    At 1:25 you can see the tip of the plane enter the frame, the next frame has the explosion because the plane is moving...ya know, kinda fast.
     
  2. Remii

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    I don't get into the discussions of the buildings for the simple fact that there's not even concrete evidence that those planes were actually "hijacked." Just a bunch of people believing movie plots... And maybe these firemen are actors ---> https://youtu.be/G1zED8dy63w

    This is interesting as well...
    911 witnesses dead _ https://youtu.be/suQitX2GmTU

    Don't you mean who runs the CORPORATION:eek:
     
  3. dachuda86

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    Missile. Other videos show this and it looks too small to be a plane. Also this was the one section the govt evacuated for "renovation." Surgical precision for a terrorist.
     
  4. dachuda86

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    Yup this.
     
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    The tip of the plane will be small. How can you even make that determination.

    Also it wasn't evacuated for renovation. 150 people died.
     
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    I can't believe Sweet Lou 4 2 has made it this far without pointing out the lens (barrel) distortion in the Pentagon video (seen by the ghost dots). Oh, wait, yes I can.

     
  8. dachuda86

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    The same section looking for trillions of dollars said missing... Also the plane ignored easier routes and circled to get on course for that section. Seems like the "pilot" went out of his way...

    Also there is a punch hole in the wall with no evidence of wings hitting the building... This is before the building collapsed.. No wings found anywhere outside the building and almost none existent plane wreckage.
     
  9. durvasa

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    Who all was involved in this conspiracy you're alleging took place?

    "It looked controlled" is just not a convincing argument. How something "looks" is often misleading. I would sooner trust the consensus among experts in the field rather than what some laypersons think they saw from the footage.
     
  10. dachuda86

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    Fair enough. I'm not asking you to trust me. Go do your own research and make your own observations. I really encourage you to.

    I saw what looked like controlled demo on wc7

    I saw squib explosions on all of the wc collapses. Signs of a controlled demo.

    Also saw reports that were reporting downed wc7 before it Happened.

    Also heard firefighters claim a third explosion.

    Also note the damage to the pentagon doesn't match the angle of entry that it would take for downed light poles to have falled.

    Also note the ties to bush and bin laden. Also the bin laden family was the only family allowed to fly when all planes were ordered grounded.

    Also note the lack of reaction from our president when he was told this happened. Wouldn't a president who just found out express more surprise and perhaps tKe action if his country was potentially under attack?

    Note the fact that the wc just received huge insurance policies before this.

    Also note the fact that the bush admin is financially tied to wealthy elites who profited from invading Afgahnastan and Iraq. Yes this was the motive if you believe the old phrase- follow them money.

    Also note that there are actually documents written by bush admin. Officials about starting a continuous war. And a specific plan Wesley Clark publicly outlines about destabilizing the Middle East.

    You are at the tip of the ice berg.
     
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    I've always kind of thought about this one part of the madness...

    If your country was actively under attack, wouldn't you immediately secure your commander in chief and get him to a safe & secure location ASAP no questions asked? So if that's the case, and we were under the assumption that the country was under attack... why did the secret service just allow President Bush to sit in that elementary school for over twenty more minutes after giving him the news?

    Again, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but can anyone explain the logic behind that plan of action (or rather lack of in this case)?
     
  13. Space Ghost

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    Because running out hysterically is the preferred alternative? Its not like all four places had already hit and the building had collapsed by the time he found out. He found out immediately and it was only the two planes crashing into the building, not a nuclear detonation or tens of thousands of N Korea planes flying over America dropping troops.
     
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    http://youtu.be/VKFiGfW6aGY

    More on the structure... 24 core columns... All would have to snap at the same time to produce a straight drop, instead of a toppling building that goes to the side.
     
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    When two planes take down a landmark, it is time to leave the classroom. You don't sit while your country is underattack. And of course it isn't a time to act hysterical. It is a time for action. I mean common... The World Trade Center! A huge landmark and you just receive news that a second plane hit it? Wouldn't your face show some human emotion? He looks robotic and proceeds to stay put instead of simply ending the class and walking out. He doesnt have to leave hysterically, by yes he should do something, he is commander in chief. And yes the secret service should have been Moving him to a secure location, and they eventually did but not very quickly apparently.
     
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    The government can make 9/11 happen but can't manage to keep videos exposing them as treasonous murderers off of YouTube.
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    When the first plane hit, they did not know it was a terrorist attack.
     
  19. Space Ghost

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    8:55: President George W. Bush arrives at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida, as part of a scheduled visit to promote education when White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card, who is with Bush, informs him that a small twin-engine plane has crashed into the World Trade Center. Before entering the classroom, the President speaks to National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, who is at the White House. She first tells him it was a twin-engine aircraft—and then a commercial aircraft—that had struck the World Trade Center, adding “that’s all we know right now, Mr. President.

    9:03:02: Flight 175 crashes at about 590 mph (950 km/h, 264 m/s or 513 knots) into the south face of the South Tower (2 WTC) of the World Trade Center, between floors 77 and 85.

    9:03: President Bush enters a classroom as part of his school visit.

    9:05: After brief introductions to the Booker elementary students, President Bush is about to begin reading The Pet Goat with the students when Chief of Staff Andrew Card interrupts to whisper to the president, "A second plane has hit the second tower. America is under attack."[20] The president stated later that he decided to continue the lesson rather than alarm the students.

    9:14: President Bush returns to a holding room commandeered by the Secret Service shortly before 9:15. The holding room contains a telephone, a television showing the news coverage, and several senior staff members. The president speaks to Vice President Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, New York Governor George Pataki, and FBI Director Robert Mueller, and prepares brief remarks.[21]

    9:55: Air Force One leaves Sarasota-Bradenton International Airport.

    9:58:59:[10] The South Tower of the World Trade Center collapses, 56 minutes after the impact of Flight 175.

    Your comments lead me to believe you know very little about what happened that day and you base your personal beliefs off of youtube videos.

    I do remember that day. In the first moments of the attack, it was believed to be an accident. The mindset then was not of today. When any disaster occurs, the first thing people think "ZOMG! THE TERRORISTS ARE COMING!"

    Bush is a politician, not a dictator. The agencies at hand were handling the issue. The FAA was doing its job. Most of the government agencies had no clue what was going on. There was A LOT of misinformation in the first hour. Instead of bolting out hysterically, Bush calmly finished his book reading and left ... all in twenty minutes from initially arriving. During this time, his staff was working to find out the details. It was a full hour later from his arrival before a "landmark" was taken down.

    So exactly what did Bush do wrong in those twenty minutes that reinforces your conspiracy theory?
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You should take your own advice. You seem to dismiss all the evidence and research that contradicts your craziness.

    Are you a demolitions expert?

    Are you a demolitions expert?

    The walls of Wc7 were bulging and creaking for hours before it collapsed. They were evacuating the area because of that bulging. There are photos of the building bulging. Tons of people saw the walls beginning to fail. Why would it do that before the explosives? How do you explain that.

    They claimed a lot of things that day. A lot. For instance that no Jews were killed. That was a big part of the conspiracist theries. Well that's pretty amazing. Because I went to the funeral of a friend who died. I guess they must have faked that and his wife faked breaking down. All that was just an act right?

    Based on what do you make this claim?

    Lies:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20040529013533/http://www.hillnews.com/news/052604/clarke.aspx

    That was 9 days AFTER 9/11. Commercial flights had resumed.

    Umm, he looked pretty stunned and scared.

    Actually this is very misleading, the WTC was sold just a few months before 9/11. The buyer was Larry Silverstein. He paid $3.2 billion and got $4.55 billion in insurance money - all of which was required to be used to rebuild the WTC (as he was obligated to do under his lease terms). The cost of rebuilding was near $11 Billlion. He did not make a windfall. To this day he is in debt from the WTC. Oh yeah, while the building were destroyed, he still had to pay $100 million a month in rent. He really got a raw deal and somehow people like you spin it as if he had a windfall.

    This is just too silly.
     
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