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Black Lives Matter is an honorable movement and is in no way racist

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Aug 9, 2015.

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  1. SF3isBack!!

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    Black lives don't matter to racists and BLM tries to combat systematic racism, therefore it's addressed to those who don't believe black lives matter. Of course all lives matter but you don't have to convince a white racist that white lives matter.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    Either individuals like Stupidmoniker are being purposefully obtuse or they honestly don't understand that 'Black Lives Matter' means "Black lives matter ALSO".
     
  3. GlenDice

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    Why do people in this movement pick and choose which black people lives matter? What I'm trying to say is if a black person is killed by another black person does his life matter? IF so why haven't they spoke out against the youth gang violence in America particularly in Chicago? Do their life not matter because you can't use them to make a political statement? What about the high number of abortions in the black community? Will they protest abortion clinics?
     
  4. Nook

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    Meh it is like the Tea Party. Are all members racist? Absolutely not, but it seems that some are. They should still be able to assemble and protest and not sure why so many people care if blacklivesmatter# has racist members or not....
     
  5. Invisible Fan

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    Clearly racism and targeted brutality in law enforcement is non-existent, therefore calling those acts out is inherently racist.
     
  6. Nook

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    No, if that is what they meant, they would have chosen that name. They want an emphasis on the treatment of black people, and there is nothing wrong with that... That is what a movement does. Not sure why there is any need to parse words.
     
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    The security for a guy who could be the next president is piss poor at best. These loud mouthed hamplanets shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near him.

    You mean like all groups everywhere?
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    I would say the vast majority of individuals who support the "Black Lives Matter" movement mean it as "Black Lives Matter Also". Maybe not this indignant ****, but I;m willing to bet that majority do.
     
  9. Bandwagoner

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    Not so sure. If that was the case why would Martin O'Malley have to apologize for saying "Black lives matter. White lives matter. All lives matter." and getting booed off the stage?
     
  10. Nook

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    Probably... Just like I don't believe the vast majority of the Tea Party was racist or Occupy Wall Street was all spoiled rotten brats. Part of the issue is that anyone right now can claim to speak for blacklivesmatter#. There are some radical people speaking on behalf of the movement. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out.
     
  11. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Jesus... lol
     
  12. Mathloom

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    I can't get over how hot the girl on the right is. God damn.

    But yeah what they did was depressing, mostly because it shows weakness and desperation which is the source problem here.
     
  13. Dei

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    To be fair, I see that sentiment often enough and disavowal to it from blacks rarely.
     
  14. Oski2005

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    They're actually part of a radical group called Outside Agitators 206.
    https://outsideagitators206.org/

     
  15. Dairy Ashford

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    That's a little more nuanced than the mulattawatta Blueberry Muffin embed in the OP.
     
  16. Dairy Ashford

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    Probably because both of those things were gradually caused by decades of white quarantine and neglect. The abortion line is rich considering how acutely arch-conservatives despise subsidizing anything related to black women or children.
     
  17. Dairy Ashford

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    A link describing the incident itself would have been a little more helpful. But certainly one of the wobblier legs on the stand of black politics is the inability of some to identify with the group to whom they are appealing for support, and then to further ignore their role in providing acceptance and opportunities. Cynically speaking they probably wouldn't have dared do this at some conservative event.
     
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    Well there you go, straight from their own mouths. They think a movement for black rights must be led by black people. That, my friends, is racist. That is treating people differently based on the color of their skin, which is the very definition of racism. They have black people as part of the movement, and they have white allies. Even the language is the same used by radical feminists. You can be an ally, but you can't be part of the movement, and when someone that meets the qualifications (ie a black person for BLM, a woman for feminism) is talking, shut up and get out of the way.
    Yep, it is white peoples' fault when black people kill each other, have unintended pregnancies, and get abortions. What other behaviors of black Americans are the fault of white Americans?
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I am not sure that saying a movement for black rights must be by blacks is racist. I mean, do you understand what racism is? Because if you think that it's just treating people differently based on race you are wrong.

    Racism is treating people WORSE based on your race, it's thinking that they are inferior and treating them as such. They are just saying that the fight for equality for blacks must come from blacks. That's not racism, it's just shortsighted and limiting. Excluding someone from your fight for equality is not racism.

    BLM is an idea that blacks lives DON'T matter, and there is evidence for that. The media for the longest time made the biggest news of white victims of crimes, and unjust treatment by cops was pervasive but went grossly unreported. So now that some of their claims are being proven out true by pervasiveness of cameras, you're getting a lot of anger.

    That anger isn't helpful, nor is it justified. But it is understandable. And before you reach whatever conclusion you are reaching, I suggest you stand in the shoes of some of these people first.
     
  20. Space Ghost

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    umm... You do it everyday when you speak about Republicans.
     

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