[Charania] Jason Terry Progressing towards a deal with the Rockets

Does he have an additional skill set to 'pure shooter '?

 

Here's all sorts of scoring action here including pick-and-roll.

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obviously he's a shooter. He may be the best shooter in the world not in the NBA (since Seth Curry now has a contract). And he's obviously a better shooter than many supposed shooters in the NBA already.

This guy absolutely deserves to be in the NBA. No question about it. It's a disgrace that no team has signed him and instead they keep signing these old, hobbled vets to ratchet down the roster. He deserves a contract.

 

Bingo.

 

I agree he isn't just a great shooter... He can get off and hit shots from a variety of places on the floor and he can get his shot off against long defenders. He isn't Steve Novak that simply stands at the 3 point line and has to score off a wide open kick out.

I also believe he is an NBA player, but I don't know that in very sporadic playing time with the Rockets team, that he would be in a position to thrive.

 

Can't believe I've never heard of him. From watching that highlight ....His shot and movements kind of remind me of Steve Nash. Obviously not comparing him to Nash as he lacks the vision, elite passing and playmaking ability but he does look like an NBA player.

 

You guys crying in your beer because we ain't giving JET 2 years. I say balderdash. This is a 25-year old kid who has knocked down shots all over the globe. He's got way more range, better legs, he's quicker, younger, stronger, and a better shooter, finisher, pick-and-roller, you name it offensively...he's flat out better than JET.

This kid right here is endorsed by Steve Nash. In the below video, straight out of the euroleague you can see Nash's influence on his game. Dial down to about 2:30 and watch this kid circle around the paint and dish it.

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Yeah, he's gonna suck it defensively. So what! We were running JET out there last season. And believe me, Jet's defensive s-u-c-k-e-d. You've gotta to consider a player's complete game. Nash couldn't play a lick of defense either other than lay in the passing lanes. And Nash won 2 MVP's.

This guy is an elite shooter. He can put up 50 on any given night in the NBA because of that elite trigger. And we're jerking around about JET. And McHale's wanting guys that will play defense....and put up 28% from 3. Makes absolutely zero sense to me. In the NBA when you find a player that has an elite skill, you put him on the team in a role.

There is no better player available, even vets, for the minimum that can give you 80% of what this kid could give us as a 3rd string point guard.

Dear Daryl, sign this man and then take him to McHale and tell him you ain't trading him that McHale will just have to live with his defensive inadequacies but he'd better play him when it's obvious we need shooting or you're gonna can his butt. Quit giving away electric shooters just to appease coach's stupid twitch to make everybody diggers.

This guy is an elite shooter. He can shoot us back into game single-handedly. He can shoot us a 3 for every 2 he gives up. He can match every 3 he gives up and then tack a couple more on the board besides.

JET?? Forget Jet man. Sign this kid already.

 

I bet you liked Jimmer Fredette too.

undersized/ lack of NBA level athleticism..... just being a good shooter isn't good enough.

 

Morey and his ****ing lowball tactics, stop pissing players off you fat ass and give players who are important to the team their due!

 

We barely have any money to give him. We have to leave room to sign Montrezl Harell as well. I'm still he'll sign back once he see's how dry the market is.

 

Yes we do, just guarantee it, I'm sure Terry knows we cannot give him too much, but a lot more than we're trying to give him now in guaranteed dollars. At his age, I totally understand he wants guaranteed and he deserves that at least. If I were McHale I would be very pissed about this and demand from Leslie & Morey they pay the tax. Terry was the most praised member throughout the year as far as leadership, locker room presence and coaching was concerned.

 

Damn. We are not even offering a fully guaranteed contract? That is awful.

 

Yes I somewhat like jimmer as a 3rd point guard/shooter off the bench. Jimmer has been in the league 4 years, shot 38% from 3, and he's got extended range to really spread out a defense.

Yes you're right. He lacks NBA athleticism and size. But so does Terry at this stage of his career. Jimmer is younger, quicker, faster, and stronger with more shooting range than Terry has right now.

Remember this is a young man's game. And my comments take nothing away from Terry's career. He's been great. But Terry is aged in terms of basketball years. He's not the Dallas Jason Terry. He's lost a step, along with losing range, strength, stamina, vision, etc.

When you compare ballers in reference to the current roster its not about history. It's about who they are today. Jimmer is a better option as a 15th man than Jet is today because of his age and skill set. No he's not athletic. Yes he lacks size. But Jet isn't athletic anymore and Jet lacks size as well.

Steve Nash was a midget out there. Athletic? Come on. Nash was a highly skilled shooter (one of the best shooters ever at the point) along with a highly developed playmaker. To take it a step further in today's game Chris Paul is barely 5'10" (I've stood next to him) and he's slow as molasses now since his knees are going. Chris Paul is a great PG because of his skill level.

I'm not saying jimmer or heslip are Nash or Paul. They aren't. But you are saying they're not NBA players because of their size and athleticism. And I say that's bologna. Elite skill trumps athleticism at the 3rd point guard/15th roster slot. We're talking about the 15th roster slot and the 3rd point guard on the roster. Heslip, because of his extremely elite shooting skill should be on an NBA roster as a 3rd point guard. Shooting from deeeeeep translates at the NBA level and it translates big time. When you watch Heslip and you see how quickly he can trigger it from way out and how accurate he is jacking an extremely high volume of shots, those things add up to an NBA roster slot.

This is about the 15th roster slot and the 3rd string point guard. We need to quit crying over Jet not coming back and root for Morey to sign Heslip or some other 3rd string PG who is either an elite shooter or elite defender. This is why Aaron Craft and Heslip are in my signature and why Seth Curry was in my signature before he signed an NBA contract. You want your 15th man and 3rd point guard to have an elite skill that can win you a game in the last 24 seconds under extreme circumstances. Both Craft and Heslip give you that ability in a greater measure than Jet does at this time.

 

Congratulations on the most abrasive post I've read this week and most likely the single most ignorant post I've read this off-season. The Dunce Cap Award goes to you. I suggest educating yourself on the salary cap and how that effects the Rockets before making another post bashing Daryl Morey for low ball tactics.

 

There's a reason why a player like Derek Fisher continued to get NBA contracts when he was 150 years old. Intangibles matter in the game of basketball. Terry is a battle-tested veteran that can still play if needed, but more importantly serves as a stabilizer in the locker room.

For an insurance body, you would be hard pressed to find a better option.

We don't need another Troy Daniels or a less talented, less athletic version of Nick Johnson with zero offensive skills/instincts (Craft). We need a player that's not going to need to change their underpants if they're asked to step up in Game 3 of a 1-1 playoff series.

 

We should go all-in and we can be soft capped even with a full guaranteed contract for Terry.

 

I understand this logic but there are flaws in using it. Yes I agree that by signing an older player like Jet there are intangibles. But when you are only looking at older players like Jet you sometimes miss players like Beverley who was overlooked because he was playing in Europe.

When the Rockets chose to sign someone like Pat, instead of a higher priced vet who was clearly on the downside of his career and had been regurgitated throughout the league, they got a better player at a much lower cost. How many teams in the league went out and signed a high priced aging vet that season that gave the team minimum return on investment instead of looking at someone like Beverley?

The year the Rockets signed Pat Beverley the Mavs also signed Mike James and Derek Fisher. They were clearly not happy with Darren Collison as a starter and looking for someone else. Beverley would have been much better and cheaper than either James or Fisher.

Every situation is different though. GM's are not as willing to gamble on un-proven talent over over-the-hill veterans when they think they are in the hunt for a championship. Personally, I'm not a big fan of bringing Jet back. Give me an unproven player with a skill set that can translate to the NBA and give him a shot.

 

Even Joey Dorsey could get fully guaranteed contract from Morey.

 

Idiots on here acting as if Jet's only contribution was 3pt shooting and think he's just "replaceable" SMH. Its called LEADERSHIP & championship experience. The NBA season is long and every team wishes they had a guy like Jet to keep guys heads straight. If not, they end up like Sacramento. Stop seeing things strictly from a stats angle

 

This. Great post.

 

He is unsigned, so there is nothing stopping every team from offering him a contract more than the minimum.

We as fans have no way to measure or quantify Jet's intangible leadership skills. That responsibility is up to the Rockets and I will trust Daryl Morey to make the right decision. He has done pretty damn good so far.

Having said that, the leadership intangible is only so valuable when the player is not producing in the court. Terry's on the court contributions were pretty much limited to 3pt shooting last season since his defense was non existent and his play-making skills have never been anything to write home about. Add to the fact that his 3pt average in the post season was barely average and he is not worth a 2 year contract or a fully guaranteed contract....especially when the Rockets are on the verge of triggering the hard cap (using anymore of the MLE).