Zach Lowe: Terrence Jones could be asking for $15M per year

Could be either really.

 

T Jones is going to play well this season. He just needs to stay on the court.

 

Those who think that kind of money is laughable and ridiculous have yet to come to terms with how much the cap jump really changes things and really underestimate Jones and where he is for his age. Not all that surprising, underestimating of our own guys and overestimating guys on other teams is pretty common around here.

I'm in the group that believes we are keeping one of the 2 and hoping one of the new draftees takes the backup spot. Right now I would go with Dmo, but I could easily see scenarios where we keep Jones, move Dmo and me being alright with the move. All depends.

 

Do those scenarios involve both you and Daryl Morey developing a serious drug addiction?

 

It involves getting a much bigger and more beneficial return in trade for Dmo.

 

That's fair, but what do they really need at this point? They are set at just about every position.....well except PF if they trade away DMo. What return would make creating the only hole on the team worth it?

 

LOL!!!!

I would take Thompson over Jones any day of the week....

Jones is mentally weak.. Thompson stepped up big time when Love went out..

T_man

 

Someone earlier mentioned describing player contracts as a percentage of the team payroll as opposed to a dollar amount. That's genius to me because it really puts their value in perspective

 

I agree, would be difficult. Not a lot of good candidates, and Houston would have to either throw in another asset or take on a player not as highly regarded, otherwise it wouldn't make sense for the other team to trade an equal or better player who is about to get paid way more.

You could effectively pursue the same strategy by trading for a lesser PF already locked up to a decent after rookie contract. I'll probably get flamed for this suggestion, but that sounds like Patrick Patterson to me (locked in for 2 years at $6m, shoots 3's consistently now but still can't rebound).

But yeah, not a sexy solution. Your alternatives are trade for a pick (once again, not likely midseason if we are really going all in), or trade for a non-pf to fill another weakness (and that only works if Harrell is ready for backup minutes). Just not sure what that weakness is at this point. Not to say we don't have one, but Ty Lawson just filled our biggest hole if he works out, hard to say what other holes most need filling just going by the paper.

 

Somebody will easily pay $15 mill for Terrence Jones given the escalating market value of a young big men. Is he eligible for more than that? Next summer (and probably the summer after that) there will be quite a few teams with large piles of money and no stars to throw it at.

 

D-Mo doesn't rebound well at all for a 7-footer. And he'll easily get 15+ mil/yr next summer if he plays as well this season as he did in the last one.

 

Dwight can't shoot freethrows and he doesnt shoot 3s at all, yet he's considered to be top center for many years

 

Terrence is a NCAA champion
Tristan played kickball with Drake that one time

 

LOL, are you directly related to Terrence Jones?

 

Malakas was one of the earliest posters who explained it that way.

But I still don't see Morey tying up $15,000,000 a season on someone who kinda earns an overpayment in the new NBA money. He always recycles players so that he can jump on the available star-level player should he become available.

EDIT. I keep avoiding the word "flexibility" because I hate throwing away a season in the chase of Kevin Durant, who may or may not come here; but "star player" could also be a Kevin Love (possible) or a DeMarcus Cousins (not bloody likely).

 

Nope, just a Rockets fan who is also in TJ's corner. Just like I was with D-Mo before last season when everyone was ready to call him a scrub. And just like I was for Capela before the end of last season when everyone said he was 3 years away from being 3 years away from being able to contribute...

Dude, just out of curiosity how the heck does one post over 15,000 times in 2 years? I'm not sure whether to be impressed or terrified!

 

I'd think upgrading the 3 or 4 is a possible scenario and there's a good chance that the team we are dealing with prefers Dmo.

Or at the end of the day we could just value who fetches the better draft pick that we could then use to upgrade in trade so we don't lose 1 for nothing and that very well could be Dmo.

 

Last time I checked/saw, TJones still started over DMo. I have no reason to believe that Morey or McHale sees it any differently until and if DMo can prove it in training camp.

I am still in the camp that believes if DMo starts, he will have a mariginal season at best because he will be almost last on the list for touches behind Harden, Lawson, Howard and Ariza. His best bet will be to be the 6th man off the bench when Howard sits early in the 1st so he can get some post touches and hopefully rebounds.

TJones plays much better than DMo with Howard on the floor cleaning up rebounds and as a second shot blocker. TJones will also be much better at finishing above the rim on Lawson drives ala Faried role. DMo's biggest hope for starting would be to spread the floor with better 3pt shooting than TJones, but I don't know if that will be enough for him to start over him, although it could be. But that will have him camped out at the 3 point line most of the time and getting hardly any rebounds at all, which he already does poorly.

As someone else mentioned, I could see us keeping TJones over DMo long term mostly because DMo could net us more possibly in a trade for another superstar than TJones does, if other GMs view him as a lot on this board does. Maybe a Cousins, Durant, Melo, Bosh type of acquistion by the deadline or during next offseason.

Actually if we won the chip this coming year, and we were not able to get Durant, I don't think it would be insane to even believe that Les and Morey would bring BOTH DMo and TJones back if they could get them for 15 million each. That's about what they would pay Durant...but we would have already won a championship with them as our PFs, proving that they improved enough and were enough for us to do so.

So until the season starts and we see how they are playing and if they have improved their games or not, it's really hard to say that any scenario is a given...IMHO.

 

as much as cleveland went small of course tt was going to goggle up everything on the boards.

 

You suggest the Rockets to trade TJ or DMo for Furkan Aldemir?

Seriously?

Do you understand the 76ers is trying to get rid of him for his next year's guaranteed contract?