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RIP Cecil king of the jungle

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by VanityHalfBlack, Jul 29, 2015.

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  1. Cranberry_Juice

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    I wish...unfortunately my Facebook only has selfies and pics of food that I am going to eat.
     
  2. PersianRocket

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    Just curious...are any of those pictures of cranberry juice?
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    Zimbabweans don't give a schit about this lion. This article really highlights the "first world problem" outrage du jour.

    http://news.yahoo.com/lion-zimbabwe...contentsharebuttons&soc_trk=fb&fb_ref=Default

    'What lion?' Zimbabweans ask, amid global Cecil circus
    Reuters By MacDonald Dzirutwe
    11 hours ago

    By MacDonald Dzirutwe

    HARARE (Reuters) - As social media exploded with outrage this week at the killing of Cecil the lion, the untimely passing of the celebrated predator at the hands of an American dentist went largely unnoticed in the animal's native Zimbabwe.

    "What lion?" acting information minister Prisca Mupfumira asked in response to a request for comment about Cecil, who was at that moment topping global news bulletins and generating reams of abuse for his killer on websites in the United States and Europe.

    The government has still given no formal response, and on Thursday the papers that chose to run the latest twist in the Cecil saga tucked it away on inside pages.

    One title had to rely on foreign news agency copy because it failed to send a reporter to the court appearance of two locals involved.

    In contrast, the previous evening 200 people stood in protest outside the suburban Minneapolis dental practice of 55-year-old Walter Palmer, calling for him to be extradited to Zimbabwe to face charges of taking part in an illegal hunt.

    Local police are also investigating death threats against Palmer, whose location is not known. Because many of the threats were online, police are having difficulty determining their origins and credibility.

    Palmer, a lifelong big game hunter, has admitted killing Cecil with a bow and arrow on July 1 near Zimbabwe's Hwange national park, but said he had hired professional local guides with the required hunting permits and believed the hunt was legal.

    For most people in the southern African nation, where unemployment tops 80 percent and the economy continues to feel the after-effects of billion percent hyperinflation a decade ago, the uproar had all the hallmarks of a 'First World Problem'.

    "Are you saying that all this noise is about a dead lion? Lions are killed all the time in this country," said Tryphina Kaseke, a used-clothes hawker on the streets of Harare. "What is so special about this one?"

    As with many countries in Africa, in Zimbabwe big wild animals such as lions, elephants or hippos are seen either as a potential meal, or a threat to people and property that needs to be controlled or killed.

    The world of Palmer, who paid $50,000 to kill 13-year-old Cecil, is a very different one from that inhabited by millions of rural Africans who are more than occasionally victims of wild animal attacks.

    According to CrocBITE, a database, from January 2008 to October 2013, there were more than 460 recorded attacks by Nile crocodiles, most of them fatal. That tally is almost certainly a massive underrepresentation.

    "Why are the Americans more concerned than us?" said Joseph Mabuwa, a 33-year-old father-of-two cleaning his car in the center of the capital. "We never hear them speak out when villagers are killed by lions and elephants in Hwange."
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    Probably part of the reason why lions are under the 'threatened' designation in regards to their conservation status.
     
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  5. fchowd0311

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    Do people who b**** about 'faux outrage' and 'there are more important things to be angry about' project their linear incapable of multitasking brain on to the rest of the human population?

    An angry tweet expressing anger over the unnecessary death of a lion takes 10 seconds to post. So I don't see how this means they are dedicating too much of their time to feeling empathy for a lion's unnecessary death?

    Now my Facebook news feed is spammed with memes stating how dem libtards care more about a dead lion than human babies because... wait for it...









    abortions.
     
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  6. Obito

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    The problem with this thread is that people can't agree to disagree, just because you believe something doesn't mean someone's opposing opinion is trash or anything that would insult someones beliefs unless they're so morally unjust that something could be said about it.


    I know it's groundbreaking for a lot of you but while I believe you should eat what you haul, I wouldn't say I'd oppose people who do it for sport, leisure or because that's a side job for them... People can be born into that life style, does that make them trash?

    So you may ask where do you draw the line, that's simply a judge of your morality, I can't tell you where the line is, but if my friends asked to go boar hunting i'd say yes & if my friends asked me to lion hunting I'd say no.

    Guy is still a douche because he's killing a threatened species, not only that he lured it out to legally kill it.

    Does it make him a criminal? Probably not. Does it make a huge douche? yes.
     
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  7. FranchiseBlade

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    Well then if some people in this country aren't concerned about it, that makes it okay to lure lions off of a protected sanctuary, and kill the threatened species... That it's fine to shoot a lion with an arrow and let it suffer for 40 hours before finally killing it... If other lions are killed there, then it's surely okay to kill any of the threatened species.

    What a thoughtless and non-sensical response you had.
     
  8. sammy

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    Not serious
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    You totally missed the point. I'm not surprised at all, either. You are blinded by your own bias and it causes you to miss key logic points.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    What exactly is your point? You are upset that people are upset over this? You are upset that you project your linear inept at multitasking brain to others assuming they can't be upset at more than one thing at a time?
     
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    I've reread your statement again and it's still not clear if your criticism of bearded twats is about climbing Everest in general or the treatment of Sherpas. They are related but not exactly the same issue especially in regards to comparing it to the Big Game hunting. As stated most of the criticism of big game hunting is the treatment of locals like guides but about the act itself.

    It's a tangential issue anyway.
     
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    Heard on local radio today that other dentists' offices in the same building are receiving death threats. Local police are looking into death threats.

    This is getting out of hand. We can criticize Palmer and the idea of big game hunting but making death threats especially to people who just happen to work in the same building as he did is just nuts.
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    I disagree with hunting so I'm ok with this
     
  15. DonnyMost

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    Hunting for food? Cool. Rock on. Circle of life.

    Hunting for sport with cause (overpopulation, protection, etc)? Git r dun.

    Hunting for sport without cause? Dumb and cruel. Find a better hobby.

    Hunting apex predators that don't even run away from you or hide? Eat a bag of big ol' floppy dongs.
     
  16. Jontro

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    Lulwut? That doesn't even make any sense. smh.
     
  17. Nook

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    Yes, it is part of a greater problem that has become obvious. Something or someone does something offensive, and then millions of people act outraged and disgusted, death threats are made, the issue is covered non stop and we move on to whatever the next "outrage" is. People are sufficiently distracted from the larger problems and people feel good about themselves by standing up against whatever the "outrage" is.

    I am sure the next one will be some racist voicemail someone left or perhaps it will be a baker that won't make a cake for a transgender lady..... or perhaps it will be some soldier that stands up for the American flag.
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    I think it might be a case of mistaken identity where they think they are threatening Palmer's office and instead got one of the other dentists.

    That doesn't excuse making death threats over this.
     
  19. Jontro

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    Oh true, that's probably the case. And I agree, death threats over this is kind of ridiculous.
     
  20. Rocketman95

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    Agreed. Now, if the lion had somehow mauled him to death, I wouldn't have much problem with that, but two wrongs don't make a right.
     

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