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Donatas Motiejunas - X Factor

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DudeWah, Nov 23, 2014.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    The ONLY reason it was their year was because literally every team they played in the playoffs were hobbled by injury. Being able to put Bev on Curry instead of Terry would have helped the Rockets. Having DMo out there instead of Jones or Smith would have been an upgrade too.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Well he did score 11 on Davis and 4 on Asik so it wasn't like he was only picking on weak defenders.
     
  3. jbasket

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    Speaking about post ups. Let me remind you of the guy's post:

     
  4. nobie

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    he did school him in the post only single time in that game though. But i have seen DMo school AD in post in other games as well.
     
  5. jbasket

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    Yep. Once.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/k_DbGFmYojQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    2 times in 5 games; teaching him lessons, for sure. Please find another example.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    Well yeah that's over the top, he did look really good the one time he scored in the post that game, but I think it's more important that his offensive game is versatile. He scores on AD in the PnR twice, in the post once, and hits a 3 on him. That's pretty damn good for a 3rd option....or 4th option now that Lawson is on the team.
     
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    AGAIN Bev wasn't the Bev of old, his defense wasn't good this season Bobby.

    Dmo was not and is not better than Jones and Smith. They're pretty much even, a member already posted their stats and it was pretty darn close.

    The Warriors would have still won that series, it was their fate. We might have pushed them to game 7 and that's it.
     
  8. nobie

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    Maybe its hard for you to understand but basketball is team game, and postups isnt his only options. He can postup anyone, so obviously Pelican puts there best post defender on him (Asik).
     
  9. oakdogg

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    Spotting up on the perimeter is only going to affect his offensive rebounding. He averaged 4.9 defensive rebounds per 36, which is a little low. I just don't think rebounding is a strength for him. Nobody's perfect.

    Also, if I recall correctly, DMo was not put in at all in the series we lost to Portland 2 years ago.
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    Taking into account salary, would you trade Dmo for Anthony Davis?
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    He was still better defensively than Terry or Prigioni though....which means he was better than the 38 year olds we had to go with.

    DMo is pretty clearly better than Jones on both sides of the ball and it's not close. I could see an argument for Smith over DMo defensively, but certainly not offensively.

    Drastically improving both the starting lineup by having DMo and Bev back while improving the bench by not having to start bench guys would have been IMO enough to beat the Dubs. The first 2 games were lost by a combined 5 points, DMo and Bev make up that margin easily.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, of course. Anthony Davis might be the best player in the league within the next few seasons.
     
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    Why are you trolling man? I know some of pro-DMo posts are over the top, but you don't need to stoop to the level where you come off as a hater, which probably isn't your intention. It just sounds as dumb as DMo fans.
     
  14. jbasket

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    Absolutely (edit: if healthy). Everybody needs to curb the "DMO is a future all-star! DMO is a great defender!" though. Very serviceable for this role. Really, where did people get this idea of an defender from him?

    Maybe it's hard for you to understand English. And basketball.

    Nope; would only trade DMo for MJ and Poppovich.
     
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    Well he IS a plus defender, especially when he's at the 4. He just is. He played more than half of his minutes at the 5 so his overall numbers don't look that impressive, but the fact that they are still more than solid despite having to make up for the loss of Dwight Howard as much as he did is pretty impressive.

    Not many young PF's would have done as well in that situation.

    I don't think DMo ever makes an all star game, but I think DMo could be included as a member of Houston's "Big 4" by matching Chris Bosh's performance as a member of Miami's "Big 3". Bosh averaged 17/7 in those seasons, I could see DMo matching that next season.
     
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    Please tell me you're joking.

    Pop is old, slow and short. He can't defend anyone nowadays.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    The only thing holding DMo back from more points is touches in the post, if he got more, he scores more - what he does is completely scale-able.

    So far no one has been able to guard him in the post consistently, and that is after he has been around the league a while, because he has COUNTER moves, lots of guys have one decent move, DMo has several and that is what sets him apart.

    Is he an all star? Nope, but he is a tier below that and is getting better.

    Again, confidence and touches is all he needs.

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  18. jbasket

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    Well he is supposedly as valuable as Lebron.

    So by the transitive property, he is a generational talent. Pop is not scared of Father Time; Father Time is scared of Pop.
     
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    Pretty much this. I don't think his efficiency would drop if he got more touches - he's that good in the post.
     
  20. Mathloom

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    This is not true, D-Mo spends more time guarding people further from the basket too.

    The rebounding numbers which we look at and say are "good" are based on a PF who stays at or near the rim on offense or defense.

    In today's NBA, PF's are moving further from the basket offensively and defensively. That means less rebounds. It means significantly less rebounds if you're not an elite athlete.

    We have Howard and Capela swallowing rebounds. A PF who's not a great rebounder by traditional standards of the past 5-10 years is no issue at all. It's not a PROBLEM in today's NBA. It's a creature created by people in the NBA. Teams are willing to lose out on the rebounding rate a little but if it means more efficient scoring and defending - makes sense.

    D-Mo is, at the moment, almost unguardable with single coverage. Deadly in the low/high post, great from 3pt range, very good passer. All I need to know is that he can score at will on LMA, Blake Griffin, Draymond Green, Andrew Bogut, Festuz Ezeli, Serge Ibaka, Enes Kanter, Tristan Thompson and Timofey Mozhgov. These guys won't be able to abuse him at will because he's actually a decent defender. Every one of those guys except for Griffin and LMA were mediocre as hell until they developed on a winning team. That's where we are right now. D-Mo is tomorrow's Ibaka, tomorrow's Draymond Green but we don't see it right now.
     

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