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You'd be surprised if Lawson play for the second unit?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by 1510 Polk St, Jul 19, 2015.

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You'd be surprised if Lawson play for the second unit?

  1. Yes, i want the most powerful offensive team in the NBA

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  2. No, Pat should be starter (Defense & fit whit Harden)

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  1. IgotNext

    IgotNext Member

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    Lawson should start in regular season.

    in playoffs, either or. Who ever makes a better match up to win that series
     
  2. shastarocket

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    I love how everyone is dogging on McHale's intelligence. Were you guys under a rock last year?
     
  3. coachbadlee

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    For anyone questioning why Beverley should continue being the starter.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/DMg_xbycKNw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  4. xtruroyaltyx

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    Lawson will start and play more minutes.

    He and Ben aren't in the same stratosphere.
     
  5. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    I don't care. Manu never cared that he came off the bench despite being one of the top 3 players on their team. Whatever helps us win more games. Do that.
     
  6. coachbadlee

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    In this situation, it doesn't matter who is the better player. What matters is which one fits better with our stars. That's Beverley.
     
  7. FANfrom86toNow

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    That just doesn't make sense to me. First, even if Lawson came off the bench, he would STILL play a lot of minutes with Harden. Harden is going to play 32 minutes or more, and Bev will not relegate Lawson to less minutes than him no matter how good his defense is, and Bev still has to prove that he can elevate his defense back to what it was his first year here. So even if Bev got equal minutes at 24 (which he won't) Lawson would still be on the court with Harden at minimum of 6 or more minutes, which is ridiculous. Lawson will probably be on the floor with Harden a minimum of 20 minutes a game no matter what.

    Plus Harden plays the entire first quarter almost all games. If Bev started, he would still be subbed for by Lawson with about 6 minutes to go, still leaving Lawson with Harden for that last 6 minutes in the first quarter alone. I would rather have Bev on the bench cold than have Lawson over there getting cold after the warmups before the game.

    McHale just has to stagger Lawson and Harden so that one is always on the floor. He had to do the same thing with Dwight and Harden towards the end of last season and did a great job at it. Someone already mentioned that probably Lawson and Howard will be subbed out and in together on a regular basis, which would make perfect sense because Harden can lead the team still with Bev and Capela or whomever subbing for Lawson and Howard.

    I could see always subbing in/out Lawson/Howard and Harden/Ariza together and using the other players to compliment those lineups. But I still see our starting lineup as Lawson/Harden/Ariza/TJones/Howard, unless another trade is made before the season.

    As I mentioned in another thread, TJones wlll probably get the start over DMo because of being a better fit, not necessarily a better player. He will be more suitable to playing above the rim with Lawson ala the Faried role, than DMo is. DMo will/could dominate in the lost post off the bench in the 6th man role in which he can get more touches in the post when Howard sits and Capela is in.

     
  8. JMAD21

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    I could find a highlight video of Lawson putting up 20/10 numbers consistently.

    Imagine Bev being able to play like that all the time, without worrying about offense, or fouls, or tiring himself out. That's how it would be if Bev comes off the bench.

    You don't bring a border line top 10 PG off the bench! Why get harden help if you're not gonna play them together?
     
  9. pippsux

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    Thats the coaches problem.....but even a blind man knows Lawson is ur day one starter, assuming he isnt suspended at the begining then bev can start.
     
  10. ZJP3

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    This is why I think he should come off the bench actually. Last year, as much as people haven't been wanting to admit it, was not that good. He was getting burned consistently, and we saw his three point shooting get worse and worse after starting really hot. I think him coming off the bench will allow to exert that energy we saw and loved a couple of seasons ago and greatly improve his shooting as well.

    Then again, starting doesn't necessarily mean he would have to get more minutes than Lawson. I'm not sure, a lot of it I think should be based on match ups and situational lineups
     
  11. Haymitch

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    I would be surprised if Bev started. I'd like to see it, but don't expect to.
     
  12. ZJP3

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    Meant to say his defense wasn't that good
     
  13. coachbadlee

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    I know the thought of Lawson not being our starter is not a popular one. Neither was the idea of bringing Josh Smith off the bench, but it worked out because of fit.
    I know Lawson will be the starter. Just imho, they should bring him off the bench because of fit. As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, Bev could start but Lawson will get the majority of the minutes.
     
  14. batkins

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    Lawson. We can bring in Bev early in the first so we can bring back Lawson to run the second unit in the second quarter.
     
  15. getbloodyred

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    So we tried this experiment with Lin and Bev with Lin going to the bench to be our supposed "offensive spark" off the bench. That obviously didn't work out but that was mainly because, well, Lin kind of sucks. With Lawson on the bench, the second unit would be really fast and fun to watch. But there would really be no defense at all, unless you have KJ be the backup SG instead of Thornton.

    Lawson
    KJ
    Brew
    Jones
    Capela

    That could work, but I feel like Thornton could be very successful in Houston given that he gets in shape. I guess we could work from a game-to-game basis. If we need a wing defender on the court then put in KJ, if we don't, put in Thornton and ask Brew to not gamble so much and play harder defense. McHale isn't really one to do something like this though.
     
  16. RudyT43

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    For all of McHale's perceived shortcomings as an Xs and Os coach he is great with our rotations. Being on so many great teams gives him the knowledge and understanding of how to be best utilize players by playing them with who they play best with. He was the one who kept harden out of the game during the miracle comeback of game 6 against the clippers and had the smarts to pair Ariza and Brewer down the stretches of games.

    When it comes to Lawson, I think he will start but will also be finishing games. However, I do think he will be best utilized running the show with the second unit. With our constant movement and ability to run the fastbreak he will be the perfect guy to find cutters like Brewer, McDaniels and Jones. Can't wait to see how he fits in with the team.
     
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    Pat's a beast

    And damn that Lin drop pass to Parson at 4:30 got me going OH ****!
     
  18. MONON

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    Just like you don't bring a border line top 10 sg off the bench like Pop did. We got Lawson to help Harden. That help will come in the form of playing Harden less minutes & playing Harden & Lawson together
     
  19. Downtown Sniper

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    I may as well post a youtube video of why TMac should be our starting SF.

    It's as long ago and irrelevant as this video of Beverley being a good defender.
     
  20. PeterKingX

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    Second unit? maybe Lawson will also leave like Josh Smith did.
     

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