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Was 911 an Inside Job?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROCKET RY, Jul 13, 2007.

  1. Classic

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    I always liked that the reporting of building 7 falling took place prior to it actually falling.
     
  2. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    What are the others? Curious.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    The buildings collapsing isn't really a question for most experts. There is literally no question about it at all from the vast majority of experts who have weighed in on the subject.
     
  4. Ty_Webb

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    Yep, CNN is part of the whole thing too. Good lord.
     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    "How brain dead are conspiracy theorists?"
     
  6. KingCheetah

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    The only true conspiracy from the 9/11 attacks (that no one ever talks about) is the fact that no one could train on MS Flight Sim 1999 and take some lessons in a Cessna then strike multiple targets with that kind of pinpoint accuracy flying a 757/67 400-500 mph. There was at least one highly trained pilot and navigator in each of those planes - most likely former military IMHO (looking at you Saudi Arabia).
     
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  8. heypartner

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    To any and all conspiracy theorists,

    You can't just throw out ideas why terrorists didn't do it without telling us who did. That's a theory that only goes half way.

    So, who did it.

    Something like 5 years ago I asked my lawyer brother who was a diehard conspiracy theorist on that this very simple question. It stopped a very successfully, professional debater in his tracks and stumped him. Lawyers don't like to pause for more than 5 seconds, so he had to say something...he said...

    The Israeli's

    I prefaced my comment by saying if Cheney knew about it, then he could be tried and hung for treason as the VP.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I remember talking to my dad about this - he was a civil engineer who worked on making critical building structures fail-proof. He works to find weaknesses for nuclear reactor walls for instance. Airplanes isn't what they worry about because the walls are so thick that an airplane can't penetrate more than a few inches even at high speed. They worry more about truck bombs and catastrophic natural events.

    As for the building, he said there was no way they could have survived the impact. The combination of structural damage and intense heat from the fires were beyond the engineering of almost any building built and especially true of buildings in the 70's. And trusses are just not designed to withstand fires of that magnitude very well. Insulation would not have saved those buildings, only delayed the collapse. The weight above the area of breach would have been too immense and their collapse would have been just as it was.

    In fact, almost any massive structure is going to collapse straight down and not tip over of topple. The weight is simply too great. It will just go straight down. It's not like a tree which can tip over. A tree can float on water - it's not dense. Demolitions collapse a building the way they do because that's just gravity. They do set the charges up so the building collapses inwards so as not to damage surrounding areas.

    When you think about the WTC collapse, it damages tons of buildings around it. So it wasn't definitely not a demolition - it was a messy collapse which is still mostly stright down because of that thing called the force of gravity.
     
  10. Remii

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    Amongst the police/prisons... You have the courts, probation, and attorneys. There's also the money delegated to law enforcement to look for mar1juana. And if mar1juana is decriminalized _ it kicks the door wide open for industrial hemp so then there would be a list of companies shaking in their boots (at least the ones that couldn't convert over). It's money to be lost all around the board. You're talking a hypothetical on crime is crime because weed smokers, growers, and sellers may just be easier to catch since there so many locked up... But they could just enforce more of the BS laws in the books on the average Joe to make up for it.

    It's families that are living off $50k a year or less... D@mn shame how they are doing people. And then they pump this "War On Drugs" crap to squeeze more money out of citizens ----> but yet herion use has grew in this country mysteriously after they invaded Afghanistan... Go figure.
     
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  11. Buck Turgidson

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    Threads like this are useful, though, they let everyone know who the nutjobs are.
     
  12. larsv8

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    The logical conclusion to draw is the people who did it would be the ones who benefited the most from the event.

    How about this guy?

    Larry Silverstein - The leaseholder of the buildings who was looking to get 12 billion dollars, had to settle for 4 billion.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323993804578614292502152144
     
  13. Cohete Rojo

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    Are you trying to say, he hired terrorist to fly planes into his building, the Pentagon and the White House so he could profit(?) $4 billion? And then what, move to his secret island hideout? Really?
     
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  14. heypartner

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    And that would be Al Qaeda. And they surely were well funded, and further after the event, to build their war against the West.

    Why don't you accept the logical conclusion?

    Really, the landlord did it.
     
  15. heypartner

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    The other thing that really pisses me off in this is the conspiracy theorist are saying that all the many soldiers who have died fighting for 9/11 retribution have died in vain.

    Is that what you are saying? You are saying that the US govt might have known it wasn't Al Qaeda (or worse, did it) and yet two Presidents have let our soldiers fight and die for a cause to cover up a conspiracy, to save the Twin Tower landlord money?

    Or was it Isreal that we were covering up for?
    Or was it the Weapon Industry who did it, without the President's knowledge?

    And why, if your info was so accurate, would a second President not know yet still continue to let our soldiers die.

    I think it is an atrocity to the Military to say that two Commanders-in-Chief would rule over their generals to force a 15 yr farcical war.

    Are you saying that?
     
  16. durvasa

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    What is the logic behind this conclusion? It just appears like fallacious reasoning to me.
     
  17. J Sizzle

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    18 pages? We're giving this nonsense that much attention?
     
  18. heypartner

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    And when Cohete Rojo is not siding with the conspiracy theorists on a subject...that says a lot. :grin:
     
  19. heypartner

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    No, it's perfectly valid reason to say Al Qaeda gained the most from this. Al Qaeda had the most to gain, cutting across many measures, for their cause. And we can apply that to their bank roll afterwards, too.

    He's just mis-applying the logical conclusion.
     
  20. bingsha10

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    lol, yes you can. You don't have to know how a magician does his trick to know it's not real.
     

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