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Republican Candidates for 2016

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by chrispbrown, May 17, 2013.

  1. Dubious

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    http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/can-john-kasich-get-traction-summer-donald-n395686

    Who is John Kasich?

    "Ohio Gov. John Kasich can sound pretty different from the 15 other Republicans running for president. 'Just read Matthew 25. Did you feed the hungry? Did you clothe the naked? If we¹re doing things like that, to me that IS conservatism.' He doesn't necessarily govern like them, either. He expanded Medicaid under Obamacare and favors a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. And even voted for an assault-weapons ban." More from Hunt: "Kasich grew up near Pittsburgh, the son of a mailman. He was raised Catholic, but drifted from religion until both his parents were killed by a drunk driver… He went to Ohio State, then served eight terms in Congress. He led the Budget Committee during the contentious fiscal fights of the 1990s, ultimately playing a key role in balancing the budget." And as we mentioned above, Kasich has a 60% approval rating in his home state. Name another current senator or governor running for presidential with that high of an approval rating.
     
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    Trump giving out Graham's number...oh the hilarity that is the GOP circus at this point.
     
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    Trump is truly an amazing character.

    I actually think he's smarter than people realize. He understands media, he knows that no press = bad press. Look at Christie, Cruz, Rubio, Paul, Bush, Walker.....nobody has a clue how they plan on running a campaign because its all Trump. And the longer Trump remains as front page news, week after week, the less people care about the other candidates. Sooner, rather than later, many of them will drop out.

    He's the ultimate villain character, with the pockets to not have to depend on the person in the background ultimately pulling the strings. Politicians big problem is they try to be loved. Trump is going at it with a different angle, he wants to be hated. And I actually think it might work. Not in a general election but I think the chances he actually becomes the Republican candidate are slowly becoming a possibility.
     
  4. SF3isBack!!

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    Someone on the right compared Trump to Herman Cain earlier and I disagree. I was watching CNN earlier and they were saying how people already know Trump so they know what they are getting. They didn't know Herman Cain was a total joke it took time. People know Trump yet he still leads the polls. If he can sort of temper himself a bit and only rage on things like really spark right wingers he may have some staying power. The GOP candidates though there are many are not particularly uplifting and inspiring. I guess you take what you can get.
     
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    Not sure if he can hold up under the withering spotlight should he emerge as the front-runner, but Scott Walker might be the GOP's guy.

    Just don't see Jeb Bush. Never saw Marco Rubio. None of the others ever had a chance.

    IMO, appears that it's Walker's to lose.
     
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    The only that really interests me is John Kasich and the base hates him because he doesn't hate poor people and/or brown people.
     
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    He seems like he's headed the route of Jon Huntsman, sadly.
     
  8. Dubious

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    If you were running the Kasich campaign how would you get traction?
    You'd have to full Bernie and be a speaking machine. How much of the 'save the party from crazy' would you use? Is their donor marketability for that?
     
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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/AM4y8_cVj_w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    The way trump us handling this reminds me a lot of geert wilders. Be glad that he will be gone in a couple od years. We are still stuck with wilders...
     
  12. Commodore

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    Cruz calls Mitch McConnell a liar on the Senate floor! Hell yes! No other senator has the balls to call out their leader like him. He's not there to make any friends.

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    trump is awesome. Now id never vote for him, but he makes entertainment/sports radio so much better.
     
  14. Dubious

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    Name calling and overt theatrics in politics has been around since ancient Greece, the problem with it is it doesn't get business done. If you want to escalate the opposition to anything you want to get done, no matter how urgent or reasonable, just call your opponent a liar. It's witless and tactless and exposes only your own amateurism.

    That's where we are with the GOP, it's all brash and flash, created controversy and sound bites with no real substance, appealing to the lowest instincts.
     
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    i love the tactic of, I have a plan that can stop Isis! But I'm not telling unless you elect me.
     
  16. Dubious

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    I think he said the plan was to blow up the oilfields that provide ISIS with the money... without much thought to the collateral and environmental damage.

    "we've got to burn this village to save it"
     
  17. Commodore

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    What you don't get is Cruz's audience is the voters, not his fellow senators. He is not a back-slapper or glad-hander or horse-trader.

    He calls out senators that don't follow through on campaign promises. It pisses them off.
     
  18. Dubious

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    Fine, let's see him pass some legislation that benefits the people of Texas then. That's the job, that's what he should be evaluated on.
     
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    If only that had been his goal in getting elected to the Senate. Sadly, it wasn't.

    Very cute of Commodore to think somehow Cruz is genuine in all of this.
     
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    Where can I buy one of these hats?

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