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Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2015-16

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jul 12, 2015.

  1. FANfrom86toNow

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    Since we are in win now mode, I would give up some rookies/non-rotation players(not KJ though) and maybe a second round pick for Crawford if that deal was available; and let him, Thornton, KJ and Brewer fight it out for playing time behind Harden at the 2. What does he make though? I haven't looked it up and don't know if it's even possible given our salary situations.

     
  2. Nimo

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    A very affordable $5,450,000
     
  3. FANfrom86toNow

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    That's not bad, although the ESPN trade machine says $5,675,000. But I would only possibly be willing to give up Dekker plus a pick to get him, and I don't know if that works as a trade or not with our salary situation. I wouldn't give up any other prospects for him unless they were overseas prospects like Gentile or something...maybe Llull since he may never come anyway, but then that would be a lot for a player Crawford's age. I'm sure the Clips would love any of these possibilities if they want to shed his salary. This would not be a bad look at all:

    Lawson/Bev/3rd string
    Harden/Crawford/Thornton
    Ariza/Brewer/KJ
    TJones/DMo/Harrell (if and when signed)
    Dwight/Capela/Big body or vet
     
  4. Francis3422

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    Everyone knew they were seeking a 1st for TJ. That was pretty much out there (I believe during the 2014 draft).

    Terrence will remain a rotation player long enough to up his value. I imagine he is gone in February to shore up a weakness. I can see scenarios with him breaking out as well. He has played well in spurts. He needs to find consistency on both ends.
     
  5. D-rock

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    What would TJ and rights to Llull get?
     
  6. basketballholic

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    I seriously doubt a first rounder. More likely just a second. No team will view Llull as much value right now because he has shirked the NBA like 3 times now......
     
  7. dobro1229

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    Yeah I mean there are some ways to conclude he could actually be a better fit, but the main thing I see just as an eye test is how much better he is at team defense. Kind of like a coaches dream how he knows the rotations and is great at helping.

    My point though is we are pretty much splitting hairs and looking for reasons to trade him which probably isn't a healthy exercise for a GM to do. I like him as a fit, but let's not act like its Jordan vs Russell 2.0. The intriguing thing to me would be if he had a two year deal with a team option but I don't think he does. Seems like his game plan is go to the lakers, play a bunch and earn one last pay day next summer.

    Bass getting loose by the deadline... Possibly for sure. It's something to keep an eye on but if that happens I think that's pretty bad news about Harrell, Capela, and even Dekker. Out of those guys SOMEONE needs to show something. That's a lot more potential than people are giving Morey credit for.

    Optimally as a GM, you play out the first half of the season as is, and those three young guys look so good that it makes the rotation harder to break, and you can then move the reviled villain that is Joffrey... Err I mean Jones.

    Sorry I know nobody wants to hear it but I just like this team as is and don't think we need unnecessary lateral trades just cause. Jones and a 2nd for Bass... That's pretty lateral and stinks of desperation to get Jones off for the sake of moving him.
     
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  8. YaoMing#1

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    I think tjones can get pull in a late first, he did have a 19.2 per 2 seasons ago and put up nice numbers for a little bit before he got hurt this season. He's young and honestly the odds of a late first round pick turning out to be better or even as good a jones is right now is not that high.
     
  9. malakas

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    funny..EVERYONE knew? And here I was thinking that Morrey doesn't have leaks and his moves are mostly unpredictable :rolleyes: But I guess since everyone knew we must leak like a boat with a hole right?

    Besides jones contract would be needed in a trade for a good pg it would be a waste to get a pick for him before youmake your pg trade.
     
  10. dobro1229

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    Actually the report that came out was that the Rockets WERENT shopping Jones despite earlier reports but that's up for debate if you read between the lines.

    My guess (and that's just it... Guess) is that a lot of Jones shopping/non-shopping had to do with Josh Smith's ability to resign. Once they got the sense he was likely headed elsewhere the smart move is to back track and retain your security blanket PF for the regular season. Too many risks with DMo's injury and rookies behind him to trade away your other proven regular season PF when you have so many question marks.

    For a GM that is all about evaluating risk, at that point that would seem like the most un-Morey type of move.
     
  11. D-rock

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    TJ by himself is worth more than 2nd rounder. If that really is going rate, then keep him. Suns were salivating over him few weeks after Dragic trade.
     
  12. ThatBoyNick

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    I was looking over PF's and it stands out to me how perfect Ibaka would be for our team. It's too bad he's locked up for another 2 years, and that there's virtually no chance to get him in a trade considering OKC absolutely needs him on defense next to Kanter and that they traded us Harden so they could extend Ibaka to his current contract lol

    Here's to hoping Capela IS the next Ibaka.
     
  13. Da_Spark

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    Searching for a legit stretch four to replace Jones. You fellas have anyone in mind? Should be realistic value and salary wise.
     
  14. Da Wink

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    ^ right on...Jones is okay but I hate that he lacks toughness. Can't see other mobile stretch PFs out there who can bang and get rebounds....
     
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    Don't know if these guys are available and I'm not saying I would want all of these guys but:

    1. Anthony Tolliver - $3 million expiring contract, Detroit has 18 guaranteed or partially guaranteed contracts

    2. Danny Granger - around $2.2 million expiring contract. Detroit has 18 guaranteed or partially guaranteed contracts

    3. Charlie Villanueva - FA, minimum salary signing, obvious defensive issues, and he looked close to finished last season. But dude can shoot it.

    4. Ryan Anderson - If they wanted him gone, it would be a complicated transaction...but definitely worth pursuing. $8.5 million expiring contract, we would have to acquire multiple non-guaranteed minimum salary contracts along with perhaps a player with our $1.6 million TPE, wait 60 days, then combined those salaries with a player like Jones to get Anderson. And that's only if he's available.

    5. Darrell Arthur - minimum salary FA, might be willing to sign non-guaranteed deal to get into camp, he's got a nice stroke, can shoot the 3 in our system, no a good defender

    6. Steve Novak - $3.75 million expiring contract, could be acquirable in a 3-way trade that is a salary dump for OKC. We'd have to add a player with our $1.6 million TPE or the minimum salary TPE, then wait 60 days and merge his salary w/Jones to have enough salary, then find a 3rd team that wants Jones and would give up a second rounder for him. So you get Novak and a second rounder for Jones basically.

    7. Josh McRoberts - Miami is desperate to get out of the repeater tax this season. Realistically, Mcbob, Andersen, and Chalmers all need to go and be replaced by a couple minimum salaries and possibly a youngster making less than $3 million. We could possibly cobble together a couple minimum salaries along with Jones to a 3rd team and make a deal happen for him.

    8. Robert Covington

    9. Meyers Leonard
     
  16. finsraider

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    A trade really isn't realistic at this point. Maybe in December.

    We could be waiting on a few buyouts/cuts. Some of the guys I'm watching:

    1) Carl Landry/Jason Thompson - 76ers have done this for multiple players they absorbed in order to get picks/young players.

    2) Al Jefferson/Marvin Williams - Charlotte is now stuffed with PF/C type players.

    3) Nikola Pekovic/Kevin Martin - Minnesota has younger players that are going to get the vast majority of the minutes.

    4) Anderson Varejao - Surprised no one has mentioned this. There are no minutes available to Varejao is Cleveland, and his $10 million salary could cost them $30-40 million in taxes. There's probably no trade market for him. I could see them waive/stretch him.

    5) Mario Chalmers/Josh McRoberts/Chris Anderson - Miami has big time luxury tax problems, and I don't see any team trading for these players. Could they waive/stretch to save some $$?
     
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    In Miami's case, if they trade McRoberts, they can then waive/stretch Andersen and Chalmers to get out of the luxury tax.
     
  18. OpenLayup-Why3?

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    Minnesota cutting Pekovic? Are you high?
     
  19. finsraider

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    I didn't say "cut". I said "buyout/cut". Obviously he would be a buyout candidate, depending on how much he would come off his contract.

    No need to be rude.
     
  20. D-rock

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    Another option is Perry Jones III. Numbers crunch in Boston, could be had for peanuts IMO. He has potential to be Josh Smith/Lamar Odom type player. In addition to ball handling, 3 ball and explosive athleticism, he is 6'11.
     

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