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If Les Alexander and Mark Cuban switched teams, would the Rockets be better?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Feb 18, 2015.

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Who would be a better owner for the Rockets?

  1. Les Alexander

    267 vote(s)
    52.7%
  2. Mark Cuban

    209 vote(s)
    41.2%
  3. Equal

    31 vote(s)
    6.1%
  1. cebu

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    cmon people, Cuban is the best owner in the NBA.
     
  2. getbloodyred

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    He's produced results for them for the last decade, but he had the safety net of a HOF power forward to lean on. Now is when we see what he is really made of as an owner with Dirk declining. I'd say he's off to a bad start. I see a few Jerry Jones comparisons being made in the future.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

    3 Mavericks 41 827,702 20,187
    14 Rockets 41 747,412 18,229

    They are 3rd in attendance and they have a worse team and less global recognition.

    You need to go back when the Mavericks were the laughing stock of the league, they were the Sixers, Bobcats, etc.

    http://www.biography.com/people/mark-cuban-562656#purchasing-an-nba-team
     
  4. Haymitch

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    You need to work on your troll game. It's too obvious when you say something like this.
     
  5. roslolian

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    Uh huh. That's why you made a thread talking about how the Rockets would be better if they were owned by the Dallas Mavericks owner :rolleyes:

    This is like somebody making a thread of how it would be better if US had Kim Jong Un as the president and then claiming he loved America LOL .
     
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  6. tinman

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    you realize the Rockets have had more than one owner right?

    No, Kim Jong Un didn't turn a bad country into a profitable one.

    Who was the owner of the Mavericks before Cuban? quick, don't use google.

    don't know did you?
     
  7. tinman

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    they bumped this thread not me,

    i'm thinking about a Les Alexander vs thread

    give them more give them what they need
     
  8. BigDog63

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    Good owner for using his passion to turn around a struggling franchise. Often TOO much passion in the past, seems to have controlled that now. Was too involved in FO and coaching duties in the past...seems to have controlled that now too. I think much of the criticism of Cuban is unfounded...but a lot of the praise should be tempered as well. He'd be the first to admit the playing field has leveled as well. Pretty easy to be great when compared with the Donald Sterling's of the world. They're all gone now, and you see more owners similar to Cuban.

    As for his business prowess...he was sued by the minority owners for all the money he was spending, and how it wasn't making business sense. Settled out of court, but he is much less free spending since then. It all worked to drive up the value of the franchise, which was his argument...and most fans would love an owner who didn't worry about return on investment but just championships. But the other owners didn't.
     
  9. PhiSlamma15

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    Les Alexander. Look where the teams are TODAY
     
  10. BigDog63

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    You're the one tossing out rants and lewd phrases, and I'm sounding emotionally immature? That's rich! By all means, please continue making yourself look, well...emotionally insecure.

    Which prevents you from having an objective discussion on the matter, how, exactly? Perhaps, errmmmm....too much emotional insecurity? Just a thought....

    Hey, an actual point! How did that happen? FWIW, not a bad point either. But it doesn't necessarily answer the question...the Rockets could still be better off with Cuban than with Alexander. Cuban gives Donnie plenty of berth as well, so he almost surely would do the same with Morey. Then you'd have his passion and other assets on top of that. As well as no threats about moving the team. Why wouldn't that be better?
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I think you have to compare Morey with Cuban, not Les. Les as an owner isn't the greatest but certainly not the worst.
     
  12. tinman

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    Nobody's complaining about this Dallas Maverick

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    How do you know this? I'm genuinely curious. I assume Alexander doesn't get very involved in the activities of our General Mgr Darryl Morey other than in the REALLY big moves (like how much money to offer Dwight Howard/James Harden) which directly involve a big chunk of his money but I guess I could be wrong. But I've NEVER heard any writer, rival GM, sports anchor, rival owner, etc talk about Les's involvement.

    On the contrary, I DO hear about Cuban's involvement all the time. Now, I am willing to admit I'm not there to personally verify these things. It might be very overblown. At the same time, stating "Cuban gives Donnie plenty of berth" would seem to be your assumption since you don't spend your days working for Cuban personally. Doesn't make it untrue...thus my question again...How do you know this?
     
  14. Aleron

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    When Cuban bought his team, he not only had Dirk Nowitzki, but he also had Steve Nash, they weren't even 25.

    One of his first actions as owner/GM was to not match Phoenix's offer for Nash when Nash gave him the option, the following year Nash won mvp, the year after that he did as well. The comment that their team was plagued by poor personnel decisions prior to him purchasing the team, well that's probably the most ironic statement of all time.

    Under the previous CBA, the willingness to spend was good, because it provided you with a competitive advantage, now since the most recent cba was designed so that your team can't really improve once you break the tax line, it's management acumen and not the volume of your spend that wins, and Cuban has been pretty awful at it. Giving Chandler Parsons 15m a year, a post achilles Matthews 18m a year is hardly the actions a responsible owner (outbidding Sacramento of all teams might be his dumbest thing yet), his complete disregard of the draft is similarly irresponsible.
     
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    If Cuban were to own the Rockets tomorrow, I'd be afraid that he'd kick moari out and be owner/GM and drive our Rockets into the ground with emotional trades and signings.

    Les, although not the best owner, is best when he sits back and does absolutely nothing and lets moari do the work. I'm assuming he has had a hand in Lin's second stint here... and look how that panned out. Owners need to butt out and let their GM's work. Unless, your GM is Isaiah Thomas or Khaaaaaaan.
     
  16. BigDog63

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    Cuban says so, and you can see it (or more often not see him getting involved) most of the time. What involvement do you hear about Cuban having? All I hear is how he lets Donnie and team do the work, find the players, etc and all they do is run it by him, as probably happens with any owner. Ditto on the coaching side. He was too involved when Avery was here, but you don't see or hear about that at all now.
     
  17. Aleron

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    Donnie couldn't have been more obvious about how the Parsons signing wasn't his idea without painting it on his forehead.
     
  18. mfastx

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    Cuban is a great owner but not the best GM. I'd only like him as an owner if he lets Morey do his thing.

    Les's best attribute is that lately (once we got Harden) has been staying out of GM affairs for the most part.
     
  19. sirbaihu

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    If Les Alexander's team beat Mark Cu99an's team in the playoffs, would the Rockets be better?
     
  20. daywalker02

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    Tinguy would j*zz in his pants
     

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