Rockets showing interest in trading for Ricky Rubio?

you're kidding yourself if none of the blame is even on him

 

In that case, go there and take a look on all of those Golden State players over the last 35 years. All of them are losers, despite the fact that this team was never relevant except couple of short stretches?

It's about organization, more than it's about players, because front office is bringing you the players.

I mean, were Yao and T-Mac both scrubs in 04/05, or was it about players that surrounded them?

 

You know nothing about basketball.

How is Garnett is labeled as being a ALL HEART WINNER, CHAMPIONSHIP MENTALITY guy, ultra-supercompetitive force, while he was 0-7 on his first playoff appearences and didn't make playoffs after his MVP push?

Was he proven? Or was it about Minny?

 

Dajuan Wagner scored 100 pts in a game in high school. We should sign him.

 

if a team builds around you, like Minny seemingly tried to do and through 4 straight seasons of non improvement as a team and especially player. yeah that's not a winner. there's really is no argument here. Again as an NBA pro he has yet to prove to be a winner.

 

What the f**k does this even mean?

Basically your Rubio defense is that he will win on a good team, and he'll lose on a bad team. We have players like that, they are called role players.

 

this is hilarious. you just said it. playoffs. that's actually a level of success in the league. leading a team to playoff appearances is one of many levels of success.

on the other hand leading a team into the lottery like Rubio does every season isn't. hard for you to understand huh

 

Show me another player with quadruple-double and two triple-doubles in the eight games for a nine day stretch and we will talk.

 

Are we talking about a quadruple double in the NBA? Am I missing something here?

 

OK. What Minny team was a playoff team in the WEST? What Minny team underachieved on non-reaching playoffs?

Go there and show me

The best Minny team for that stretch had three healthy starting players in Rubio, Love and Corey and two healthy role players in Barea and Dante Cunningham

Eight seed were Memphis with fifty wins. How could this team win 50? Put James Harden on it?

Maybe that's why James Harden' caliber player are not available on the trading pitch

 

Ricky can help us, he is a pass first guard...much like Rondo....will be good since all the shot will fall on Harden and Howard when it counts.

I will agreed that PB is also good because all he does is defend and get out of the way on offense for Harden to do his thing!!

 

And that 50-win season was an underachievement season for MEM, cause they've lost Marc for a solid stretch when they were irrelevant. OK, Mavs finished up with 49. Mavs team, that took Spurs to seven games and to their most competitive series on their championship run. Maybe we should compare injury-banged Minny to them? Or to whom? Injury-banged Warriors were sixth...

Hm. this is not good

 

It isn't Rubio's fault they were bad.

But you are saying how great a winner he is, and he hasn't won. He hasn't been able to elevate his team to even .500. Great players impact results in a major way.

I actually like him as a player (not as much as you obviously) but its just ridiculous to call somebody a great winner when they have yet to win at the only level that matters. Players that can help win, but not elevate, are called role players.

 

We have a ROF or is RTM a better OHMSSS??

 

The whole thing is not about players to blame.

Put Rubio on the Rockets, he quits on his team like Rondo did on the Mavs, screw him, get over it.

But he never was in that position.

Tyreke Evans is a cancer, but he played alongside Anthony Davis and reached playoffs as a leading guard, while Cousins team was still irrelevelant. That's what the whole thing with SITUATION means.

 

If he would be a great player right now, he won't be available, but he can become that player in the right situation, he has the tools, he has shown them before

Billups had 69 playoff minutes for his career before he joined Pistons. He set the NBA record for the most consecutive conference finals appearences right away.

Was it about his strenghts and weaknesses or about the situation that he was put into?

Players do have their strengths and weaknesses, you can't build your winning mentality for a two month or two weeks, either you have one or you don't, and that's about the organization to use it and take advantage

 

was it really necessary to bring this thread back with zero news?

 

Why should we take any long stretches?

Go with Trevor Ariza, a scrub before Phil Jackson. Phil asked him badly to improve his 3PT shot and used his tenacious defense and competitiveness for a championship squad, and he was a FIGHTER last season for the Rockets. Ariza was brought to the Lakers for BRIAN COOK and Mo Evans, and nobody knew how good he could be in the winning situation when he was on Isaiah's Knicks or on sub-par Magic leastern Conference team.

 

We can fix his loser label but how is he going to fix his shooting? Sure you're not going to depend on Rubio to shoot 10 times a night given that he's a great passer but you don't want defenses to completely sag off of him and put more pressure on the other 4 players.

His mid-range is atrocious but the team don't look for that shot. His finish around the rim is just as bad. His 3point shooting is meh but Bev is slightly better.

 

His mid-range game is relevant actually, he's 45% from 10 to 16 feet and 40% from 16 to 3-pt line

It's about his finishing. It's all about his finishing