thanx for the info. So there is indeed a real possibility he goes to jail.. These examples you posted were about heavy drugs not alcohol.
Olajuwon, Hakeem FEB 5 Posted by nbacrimelibrary Charge: Assault Arrest Date: April 29, 1986 Franchise: Houston Rockets Age 23 Details: Olajuwon was arrested for assault after a 7-11 clerk in Houston accused him of punching him in the face following an altercation at the convenience store. --- I never know Hakeem punched a clerk, oh well he turned out ok I guess.
In October 1991, Tarpley was banned permanently for repeatedly violating NBA's substance abuse policy. He was reinstated two years later in 1994 but was permanently banned from the league again in December 1995 for using alcohol.
Obviously, it'd be better if he was a lockdown defender too. But, I think we can mitigate that problem. He'd be a good fit as the second playmaker to keep the offense going when Harden sits. You can pair him with a strong defender in the other guard slot. Then, if you really need defense, you can sub in with Beverley and rely on Harden to conduct the offense. Alcohol isn't the problem here either. The problem is drunk driving. Its kinda screwy but the league apparently has broad authority for kicking out players for drugs and very little for other criminal behavior. Artest got a big suspension without pay, but didn't have his contract terminated. Same with Arenas. Probably, it'll be the same for Lawson -- a suspension without pay, but his contract remains intact.
Because he obviously had an addiction problem and he violated the terms of his reinstatement. His trouble started with heavier drugs. No one's going to get banned for only alcohol.
Getting a player with discipline issues is never a good idea.... chances are that he will continue his ill advised behavior in Houston but also that he could be a bad influence for our players. Think about this, Lawson is a good friend of Harden's, do we really want our star to have his irresponsible drunk friend next to him 24/7? Dont forget that Harden is only 25 years old he can still be pretty immature.... Is the reward greater than the risk?
Roy James Tarpley (November 28, 1964 – January 9, 2015) was an American professional basketball player. In 1986 he was selected by the Dallas Mavericks in the first round, with the seventh pick of the NBA Draft. Tarpley made the NBA All-Rookie Team in his first season, and won the NBA Sixth Man of the Year Award the following year, when he averaged 13.5 points and 11.8 rebounds per game.[7] However, six games into the 1989–90 season, he was arrested for driving while intoxicated and resisting arrest, and suspended by the NBA. In March 1991, he drew another suspension after being arrested for DWI again. A few months later, he notched a third violation and was banned from the league for violating the NBA's drug-use policies. He returned to the Mavericks briefly in 1994, but was then permanently banned from the NBA in December 1995 for using alcohol and violating the terms of a court-imposed personal aftercare program. He finished with NBA career averages of 12.6 points and 10.0 rebounds per game. ----------------------- So even he is also using drug at the same time, clearly his suspension is due to his second and third DWI and this is not something the league will take lightly no matter its caused by drugs or alcohol.
Silver couldn't even get Sanders' contract voided and he was drunk punching people on a club and got arrested. And busted multiple times for mar1juana. So I won't be holding my breath for getting Lawson voided. Not to mention that the NBPA has now a chairwoman who is very difficult negotiator. It won't happen.
I have a question being a foreigner. We discuss Lawson going to jail but the Morris twins beat up a guy so bad he was in surgery for weeks and needed surgery. Why aren't they in jail? Isn't their crime more serious?
They haven't been sentenced yet (I don't even remember when their trial begun; I think it was sometime this month).
Because in this country, it takes time to get a trial going. Until then, they are all as free as you and me. Last time I was sitting in a trial for a girl running a stop sign in 2013 and that case was actually happened in 2011, and the punishment is just for $1 up to $200 max. Yes, this is a free country but it doesn't mean we don't have something f**ked up.
It may not be easy to have the player's contract void. But its easy to have him to be on the court. Sanders never come back to the NBA yet. The risk is not only about the ability and dedication of the player, but more importantly on the PR side. I doubt any teams want to take such risk.
Yes I understand it this happens almost everywhere. However one of the Morris,marcus who is the one who did the damage (and so the most likely to get in jail) by witness accounts was traded and another team took a chance with him. So it seems to me that the GMs don't think he will end up in jail in the end. And if he doesn't end up in jail for a more serious crime, then isn't there a very good chance that Lawson also doesn't end up in jail too?
Well: 1) He probably won't end up in jail, because he's rich. The charge will be reduced to something that carries little, if any jail time, he'll pay a fine and do some volunteer work and that'll be it. 2) He was traded for not very much, considering he's a decent rotation wing. 3) For all of these guys, if they end up in jail, you don't have to pay them.
Silver and Milwaukee simply wanted to dispose of the case with Sanders. That's why they arrived at the buyout. But, that buyout was LOW! Sanders gave up 73% of the total $$$$ he was owed and then he let them stretch him. Using time value of money, Sanders gave up essentially over 75% of what he was owed. That's substantial. That means that Sanders' attorneys felt that Silver had the goods on him and if they went to court they were likely to LOSE! So they settled for a minimal buyout that saved both sides time, aggravation, and expenses. (Would like to read from some attorneys offering their thoughts on this to see if I'm in the ballpark or way off base here. But this is what I surmise took place in Larry Sanders case.) While Lawson's case does not appear to me as dire as Sanders was (so far no drugs, just alcohol), his situation is still very serious. If he goes to jail for a substantial amount of time, that makes the league look very bad. And he sure appears to be in clear violation of the moral turpitude clause of the UPC in my opinion. (Would like to read some attorney's opinions on this as well.) I'm guessing they agree to a buyout somewhere around 50% of what he is owed and they may or may not agree to a stretch. Stretching doesn't make a lot of sense for Denver.
You are correct about Sanders but they still opted to buy him out and not void and there is a reason for this. The NBPA would raise hell. And that after TONS of tries to get him to rehab from both the team and the NBPA so they wouldn't even have to stretch him. He actually wanted every single penny and it was his own agent of all people that had to convince him to take what he took.
I already said that malakas. They all agreed to a buyout because it was the quickest, cleanest, and least expensive solution for all. Milwaukee reached the end with him. They didn't want him. Silver knew he either had to go to court with the NBAPA or get the buyout finished. They finished it out and Sanders is gone. I'm thinking a similar thing (maybe not so drastic a buyout but who knows) happens with Lawson. And I seriously doubt he can get back in the league without completing a rehab stint. That might actually play into our hands down here with John Lucas. You never know. But.....it sure appears to me that this situation is going to hang on for a while. I can't see any way Lawson is ready to go by the beginning of the season with the legal nightmare, then the buyout nightmare, and then a possible rehab stint in front of him UNLESS he steps up to the plate quickly, gets the court cases resolved, agrees quickly to a buyout and gets his fanny in rehab. I think that's how it's gonna unfold here. You can't have players getting multiple DUI's. IF Silver lets that go on and one of those guys with repeat DUIs gets involved in an accident and kills someone ........ too much risk for the league. Silver is gonna step in and hammer Lawson down here.
Also keep in mind that we are the only team in NBA history that fired our media manager for using an emoji gun pointing to an emoji horse. Guess that will tell you something about Morey and Les.
