Rockets showing interest in trading for Ricky Rubio?

Perhaps you if you picked up a basketball more often and be a holic

 

I don't really have a problem with your assessment of the player. He's in the league for a reason and everything is speculative. There's a good chance Rubio could be traded to the Rockets and thrive next to a player like Harden. I would love seeing pass-cuts to Harden. I think he's very capable.

Only one way to find out.

 

Lol. Just LOL.

 

wish he'd improve his shooting. other players have improved theirs. Hard to know how much of his lack of shooting development is due to the knee injury or other things. I'd like the kid much better if he had shown the slightest bit of shooting improvement; dare i say, the way Jeremy Lin has done over the last 3 years.

 

79.50125829% (ahh have a blast with that one kiddos, it is a derived percentage) of Rubio's shooting woes are mindset. Rubio can shoot as evidenced by his free throw shooting percentages. But Rubio never looks for his shot. His mindset in every possession is to make a play to get somebody else a great look. So when that doesn't happen and he's left to chuck one up there he's not mentally ready to do it. Rubio plays a totally selfless game, which is why I like him so much. But once he tweaks his mindset to a slightly more aggressive "I'm gonna burn you if you leave me open" mindset he'll be even better than he already is.

 

LOL this ^^^^ post will break the BBS.

 

Is their actual rumors about a possible trade or naw? I have been on the trade for Rubio train but after cyber comments not sure we will pursue him.

 

Whatever it is, I doubt it. Most of us have him on ignore now.

 

Eh, you're probably right.

On a different note, have you bumped into Morey lately?

I know you guys don't talk Rox much, but if you have... did he seem 'down in the dumps' to you?

 

I haven't bumped into him but I wrote him to congratulate him on Bev/Brewer signings and he said he was happy which I believe he was. That's pretty much the definition of no-info info. We do talk Rockets plenty when we're together. We just haven't had cause to get together since the season ended and it doesn't really matter that we talk Rockets because I can't share what he tells me.

 

Yeah, I know you wouldn't share any Rox related insight here. Just wondering how his mood's been lately.

Anyway, thanks for the tidbit.

 

Whatever Rubio trade talks involving the Rockets are being held close to the vest. There was a lot of chatter about Rubio being traded here last summer prior to him signing his extension. That came close to happening. After the extension was signed the chatter fell off substantially and since the trade deadline has been almost non-existent until the draft.

We do know that Minny was willing to part with Rubio at the draft for a top 6-10 pick. I'm pretty sure they still would. For instance, if Sacramento offered up WCS and contracts to make a deal work, then I'm pretty sure Minny would say yes. Minny/Flip does want to move Rubio because his maturation and time frame doesn't mesh with the young squad Flip is building. There were talks with Houston on draft night about trading for our pick to take Tyus Jones. But they wouldn't put Rubio on the table and so we weren't willing to make a deal. Minnesota subsequently got Jones a little bit later in a much better deal for them than they could've gotten from Morey.

Rubio can be acquired. But the cost is likely a future top 10 draft pick (plus contracts) or a young player in the first or second year of his rookie deal that has shown good promise. Minny is set at the 3 and 4. So the young player with promise would likely have to be a 1, 2, or 5. Perhaps someone like Marcus Smart, or Mudiay, or Willie Cauley-Stein, maybe a young PG like Dennis Schroder.

As far as our roster goes, the only players they'd likely be interested in would be DMo, Dekker, and possibly McDaniels if we re-sign him (or some combination of those guys), plus our 2016 first rounder. And that would only be if Dekker/McDaniels break out somehow this summer/fall.

So, I serously doubt anything is imminent in regards to Rubio without it involving Ariza going out. Ariza and our 2016 is the only type of package right now that could possibly draw us a future top 10 pick or a player on a rookie contract (like Schroder for instance) that has shown a lot of promise.

In my opinion, we need to sit tight, re-sign McDaniels and Smoove, look for some sort of upgrade at any position using the contracts of Jones/Dorsey/Kostas/Pablo to bring in a value player or a player on a minimum contract (I'd take David Lee and Kevon Looney for that package), sign a couple minimum salary shooter and/or defenders (take your pick from among Seth Curry, Aaron Craft, Brady Heslip, David Stockton, Alonzo Gee) and go to camp with these guys plus whatever amount of our MLE we've got left over.

 

Would love to have Rubio on the Rockets. Yeah, his shooting is quite bad, but overall I think he would make us better. His playmaking is absolutely amazing.

 

#DownInTheDumps #PLOWWITHBERX

 

My bad...thought this thread was bumped for an actual reason....

 

BH,

Minny may want a 6-10 pick value for Rubio, but I doubt anyone will give up that much. He's played in 202/328 games or 62% in his four years in the NBA. He's played one full season (2013-14) and he sucks as a shooter/scorer in general. Those are the facts.

Having said that, I'd love Rubio as our PG. I believe he's an elite creator and those guys don't grow on trees. He's a decent defender, who I believe would flourish in our system by playing the lanes, his strength. He would make our fast break even more lethal. Because he's an above average FT shooter doesn't mean he'll be that from the field, but with work and in our system, I agree he should be better.

I'll bet DM wants Ricky, but for only for a reasonable value. If I'm Minny, I'm not sure Dieng, Payne and Bennett are all I want or need at PF. Both KPap and Jones offer Minny skill sets that none of the aforementioned 4s possess. Heck, I think either KPap or TJones could win that starting position. If I'm Flip, I might really want a player like KPap who is a playmaker/hustle/team guy in the line-up. He may just be the right ingredient (glue) for a young team. TJones is also a hustle guy that when paired w/ a player like KAT could flourish. Maybe a package of those two, Prigs (for vet leadership with young PGs) plus picks and a third team to take Bennett (Philly) might help Flip decide this makes sense. I don't know the cap implications, but I think we could put together a competitive package that doesn't impact our core (DMo, Ariza, etc.). If not, then we keep waiting--patience has been DM's strength. Unfortunately, a lot of fans have little.
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If Rubio is the guy I suspect we'll have to wait until his trade value dissipates. Or at least until his perceived trade value in Flip's mind dissipates.

I agree with your points on reasonable value. However, us homers do tend to overvalue our own players. Just keeping it real with you here, I don't think Kostas nor Pablo have any trade value beyond salary matching. And I really don't think Terrence has trade value beyond a future second rounder or perhaps another marginal player that has underperformed or fallen out of favor with their current team (Mo Harkless). Most fans, especially those here on clutchfans, highly overvalue Jones and Kostas. If I were Flip I'd consider Kostas and Jones a poo-poo platter and would not trade Rubio for those players. I'd want at least one good up-and-coming player in the first or second year of his rookie contract, plus other minor assets in order to move out Rubio.

 

Everyone worries if Rubio can shoot. Shooting is not as big of problem for the rockets as it is someone who can create open shots for others besides just harden.

 

his defense is just terrible. Sure he'll get 2 steals but he'll let his guy drop 20 real quick and next to Harden?