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[2015 NBA Draft/1-18] Sam Dekker

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 25, 2015.

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Do you like the pick?

  1. YES

    539 vote(s)
    77.7%
  2. NO

    155 vote(s)
    22.3%
  1. J Sizzle

    J Sizzle Member

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    I must be a shameless homer but I really like this pick.
     
  2. SmeggySmeg

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    only if its the hilarious Helena, or Helena trying to be Allison ;)
     
  3. Jake Tower

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    And missed out on the Strawberry Wafer back court a few years ago.
     
  4. SmeggySmeg

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    did we draft Keith Van Horn tonight?
     
  5. heypartner

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    first off, the guy i was responding to compared players at three different positions to one position. B) Evans played PG as a rookie. iii), we aren't talking about who becomes better, we are talking about who generally requires less development.

    Everyone knows it takes longer for bigs to reach their potential. That's all we are talking about here. You're not arguing against that are you?

    btw: this fact has nothing to do with whether I like the pick or not. I'm not advocating a PG. Just like it is easier to find a PG who can contribute early that a C, it is also easier to trade for or sign a vet PG than a big.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    More like Chandler Parsons.
     
  7. robbie380

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    Good pick I'm happy
     
  8. delta69er

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    Solid player with solid physical measurements and someone who plays with a high motor and tenacity

    All he needs to do is work the consistency of that 3 ball

    How can you not like this pick?

    Btw please stop with the Keith Van Horn comparisons; Van Horn was a soft 4 who was soft and liked to hang around the perimeter because he was too scared to play down low
     
  9. PersianRocket

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    Ah I only read your response. My apologies. No I agree it takes longer for bigs to reach their potential. However, in recent memory, more bugs have managed to reach that potential than guards.
     
  10. spark06

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    Dekker is a nice pick up if Brewer is ultimately gone. He hit some huge shots throughout the tournament!
     
  11. dobro1229

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    Its great value at 18. Didn't think he'd be available past 15 so you should get him if you can.

    I know everyone wanted Thomas at 18, but pick stunk alot to me like Napier to the Heat last year. Very much a NEED pick that you could see a mile away, and Morey knew that. That is why you saw the telegraphed misdirection sent a mile away.

    Thomas probably wont be an NBA starting PG to be honest. Its hard to truly be a great NBA PG so I think they look to acquire that spot through FA or trade. If not status quo.

    Dekker I think is more Gordon Hayward than Chandler Parsons if you want to compare him to a white guy. I don't see the passing and playmaking that Parsons has, or the range that he's grown into. I see much more of a scorer that Hayward has grown into with some versatility. He wont see much PT next year but if they keep him, he's bound to see a vital role in a couple years. Him at the 3 could really make this offense explode again, but its going to take some time to beat out guys like Ariza, Brewer, and possibly McDaniels if retained.

    Also wouldn't be shocked if he's traded later on in the offseason in a package for an upgrade elsewhere. The fact that the Rockets drafted him there probably makes GM's around the league wonder if there is something the Rockets see in him that others missed. Could actually have his stock raised AFTER draft unlike most prospects whose stock declines.

    Stay tuned. Interesting get for 18. I like it.
     
  12. malakas

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    I would prefer Portis but like Dekker too. But not sure he remains a Rocket for long.
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sam Dekker is NICE, somebody is getting a straight steal, VERSATILITY. Tuned in rooting for the hometown boys <a href="https://twitter.com/Tyusjones06">@Tyusjones06</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/ShowtimeMr1">@ShowtimeMr1</a></p>&mdash; Alexander White (@Highway_30) <a href="https://twitter.com/Highway_30/status/614244570079997952">June 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  14. Dankstronaut

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    I mean..... Meh? A total rockets pick, an undersized forward in the teens lol

    I mean money has built this team up with all these mid round forwards but this one strikes me as exceptionally odd, even for a total rocketball pick. The hole at guard is quite apparent. Harden can't play 48 a night, who is his backup? Beverly, if that's something we can even count on...who else? 56 year old Jason terry trying to pad his 3 point stature? And....?

    And another forward at 32 lol
     
  15. heypartner

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    That's not true, either. And you are still drifting away from the original discussion: We were talking about how long does it take for bigs to develop vs guards. But, let just go with your claim bigs are more successful. This league is dominated by guards. And let's not talk about just top tier. Let's consider the guys whose potential pretty much peaks at NBA starter. PG/SGs become starters faster than bigs.

    And if you want to talk the top tier. 7 out of the last 10 ROYs were PGs/SGs. And Wade, Curry, Westbrook, Harden, Wall were not among them. Over the last 11 MVPs, only one was a PF/C and 5 were guards (4 of which were PGs).

    This is not an era of the bigs.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    Kiss of death. I hate this pick now.
     
  17. YOLO

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    A 6'9 sf. Not sure where undersized comes into play here.
     
  18. J Sizzle

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    And Dekker's fate has been sealed...
     
  19. Carl Herrera

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/HoustonRockets">@HoustonRockets</a> take Wisconsin guard <a href="https://twitter.com/dekker">@Dekker</a> with the 18th pick in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NBADraft?src=hash">#NBADraft</a>. <a href="http://t.co/abvaeAKC7t">pic.twitter.com/abvaeAKC7t</a></p>&mdash; Grantland (@Grantland33) <a href="https://twitter.com/Grantland33/status/614246685695475714">June 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    Things need to be put into context, but Dekker's 70% FG% around the basket is rather nuts. The only two guys that had higher numbers among draftees according to Grantland's tweets are Okafor (72%) and fellow Rockets draftee Harrell (73%) and those guys are both bigs. It's particularly interesting with Dekker being a wing and getting his opportunities through a mix of drives, cuts and offensive rebounds.

    Dekker also had a very low TO rate (7.3%) in college, which adds to his efficiency. Hopefully being able to play off of attention garnered by Harden will allow him to continue to exploit high % opportunities.
     
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  20. VivaChelseaFC

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    Damn those were the days:eek:
     

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