Rockets showing interest in trading for Ricky Rubio?

First of all. There were people here that wanted to trade Harden last Summer... Carl being the biggest cheerleader on that front. So thats the type of mentality you have around here. You can't really get too worked up over knee jerk reactions. Good news is our front office is smarter than us the fanatics.

Second of all, while Harden isn't a good defender, he's damn near elite at almost everything else, and is the Rockets offense.... he facilitates and creates everything. Elite at drawing fouls, elite at finishing, elite at isolation scoring, elite at shooting in general, elite at assisting, etc. etc.

Rubio has some things he's very good at, and I like about him. He is great at pushing the ball up the floor in transition, he can create good looks in the P&R, he can make very difficult passes, and he can create some steals by playing the passing lanes.

But looking at HIS ROLE with THIS TEAM, his relative production on this team, his weaknesses that will be exploited in a team concept playing with this unit, his affect on the salary cap flexibility to make ANY future moves, and lastly... his health.... its a no-brainer to me.

Even you earlier admitted that you are not advocating for a Rubio trade. So what's the argument? I don't think anyone is saying he's the worst player in the league. What myself and others seem to be hinting at is due to THE FIT of Rubio as a skill set that he brings to this unit, its just not worth it to think twice about trading for him at that risk level.

Then you add in the injury history, and its beyond a no-brainer. Its utterly stupid to trade for him.

I believe in Morey so if he's seriously looking at this, I'll hold my judgement till I see what the end game is, but I just cannot believe its a serious inquiry unless there is some sort of ulterior motive.

 

You do understand that Rockets have James Harden and when Harden is on the court he will be handling the rock and making the plays majority of the time. Rubio can't shoot for crap so what does that do? Teams will play off Rubio and send strong double teams to Harden forcing him to get rid off the ball and making chumps like Rubio shoot.

 

I took the one weakness in Harden's game, his defense (for which he has been totally besmirched on this BBS too many times to count) and compared it to the one weakness in Rubio's game, his shooting (for which he has been totally besmirched on this BBS too many times to count)

when

both players are superior in every other aspect of the game.



Got it?

 

Not being able to shoot is a considerably worse deficiency than not being able to defend. Not even comparable.

Dwight and a good wing defender or two can cover up one bad defender. It's really hard for an offense to hide a bad shooter. Just ask Memphis and Tony Allen.

 

From the beginning, I'm sure most people would agree its always been about fit. for a team that shoots a ton of 3's harden's back court mate cannot have that as one of their main weaknesses. that's been the main point from the beginning. it's such a big focus because that's one huge responsibility the starting pg will have. they have to at the very least be respectable. Being one dimensional and trying to be a facilitator all game long definitely won't cut it.

 

Plus James is an average defender.

Rubio's been one of the worst backcourt shooters in the history of the NBA.

Also Rubio is injured all of the time. James is injured none of the time.

 

See that car? The only thing wrong with it is the windshield wipers don't work.

See that car? The only thing wrong with it is the wheels won't turn.

Same thing amirite?

 

Rubio is superior in every other aspect besides shooting? please tell us all how you got to this conclusion

 

If true, Morey's days are numbered. No way we settle our pg situation with the worst shooting pg in NBA history

 

You do not understand that if the Rockets traded for Rubio that their offensive structure would change to incorporate Rubio's best traits and hide his flaws. Just as the Rockets defensive scheme is designed to feature our best defenders and cover up our worst ones.

If Morey actually trades for Rubio it is because Harden and Howard bought Rubio's addition and they have already agreed to modify the style to maximize their collective talents.

 

Pretty sure Morey has about as much job security as you can get in the NBA. Which ain't much, but he's not going to get fired for screwing up one draft.

 

Yeah we shouldn't have signed Dwight Howard because he gets too many technicals

 

Yeah, it's hard to cover up one bad shooter that can't create or do anything else offensively.

But Tony Allen still gets plenty of minutes. Wonder why????

Because Allen's defensive presence is so powerful. That's why. He is that much of a difference maker defensively that what he adds defensively MORE THAN OFFSETS what he takes away offensively. That's why Memphis has him. And that's why Memphis won't trade Tony Allen but for a king's ransom. They'd have to get a superstar back to replace Allen's net positive impact.

But Rubio is not Tony Allen offensively. Rubio is AN EXPERT PLAYMAKER. So Rubio DOES bring a ton to the table offensively to go along with his defensive skills. Rubio's net impact is very highly positive and correlates even more positively than Allen because of how good Rubio is at making plays and getting his team high percentage wide-open 3-point shots and layups/dunks.

 

what is one of houston's main offensive structures? shooting the 3. news flash that's not changing

 

You have the ownership skills of Michael Jordan.

 

Nobody in the NBA creates more and better wide open looks from the 3-point line than Rubio does. N-O-B-O-D-Y.


This is how the offense would change. And Harden off the ball spotting up is a phenomenal 3-point shooter. Harden is a much better 3-point shooter than Beverley is. And Rubio is a much better playmaker than Beverley is and is a better playmaker than Harden is. And Rubio is a better defender than Beverley is.



EDIT: Oh, I forgot one thing.

Spoiler

12 TURNOVERS!!!

 

I actually do like Rubio. My issue with him is more my concern that Harden won't be as good or as happy playing off the ball all the time. Rubio is such a bad shooter and finisher that he HAS to have the ball when he's on the floor or he's useless. I don't know that Harden will be a happy camper if he's turned into a spot up shooter/slasher type.

 

if Morey wants him, I want him

but his terrible shooting and injury issues are worrisome

 

so what happens when Rubio bricks 3 after 3

 

Then you give your controller to somebody else that knows how to play.