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Gov. Haley listed her race as white

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Air Langhi, Jun 24, 2015.

  1. s land balla

    s land balla Member

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    Aren't you from Vancouver, BC? AKA Mini Punjab?
     
  2. s land balla

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    That guy sounds like a tool.
     
  3. Cohete Rojo

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    Plessy identified as white. Some say Obama is black. Should we all undergo eugenics testing in the US for the purpose of indisputable voter registration race identification? Just saying.
     
  4. apollo33

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    My Punjabi friends do not look like her

    but then again I've seen part Indian people in Vacouver that I thought was could be Italian.
     
  5. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    But she's American.
     
  6. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Voter fraud is a very big problem. We should all submit to DNA test.
     
  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Punjabis are not white, we are South Asian. That is a race.
     
  8. s land balla

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    Plessy and Obama were/are mixed race.

    Haley is 100% Punjabi Indian. Here's a pic of her with her parents:

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    Any fans of House of Cards here? The actress Sakina Jaffrey that played the Latino White House Chief of Staff is also Punjabi.

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    Is no one else laughing at the irony of "eugenics testing?"

    I assume you mean "genetic testing" but eugenics testing is much funnier.
     
  10. apollo33

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    Come on, she is probably not close to 100 percent Punjabi Indian nor are her parents probably.

    So many Indians I know are some part European, some more than others which makes some of them look Italian/Hispanic rather than Indian especially when they have really pale skin color
     
  11. s land balla

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    Northern India/Pakistan were invaded by Alexander the Great in 300 BC, but unless you're talking that far back, then I highly doubt it. Those with mixed British ancestry from the more recent British occupation of India have a pretty distinct culture within the subcontinent and it is unlikely she is part of that community (otherwise she would have definitely mentioned it to the media by now).

    Here are a few pictures I took in a remote villages in Indian and Pakistan a few years ago. I can tell you with certainty that these folks have no European ancestry.

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  12. geeimsobored

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    Seriously? I hate to break it to you but India isn't exactly a monolithic ethnic identity. If you go to South India you'll find people who are darker skinned than African Americans in the US. If you go to Punjab or Gujarat, you can find people with lighter skin than Nikki Haley.

    I grew up with a Gujarati guy who passed as white pretty easily. The guy was 1000% Indian. The guy was first generation in the US.

    I myself am South Indian but am a lighter skinned than other South Indians. Do I have some European in me too? Never mind that with the exception of my parents and a couple of other relatives, the entirety of my family is still in India.

    I could care less that she put white down on a voter registration form. What really bothers me is how defensive people are about this. Especially after everyone was mocking Rachel Dolezal for saying she was black.
     
  13. Major

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    The only interesting part of this story to me is if/how she would be in violation of the voter ID law.
     
  14. Cohete Rojo

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    Yes, I did. But I pulled the following quote from Wikipedia anyway. I think what we are actually discussing is ethnicity, which includes cultural characteristics and physical characteristics.

     
  15. Dairy Ashford

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    No problem with that. Black, Hispanic and Native are the only non-white races populous and distinct or old enough here to have established anthropological roles that were employed in the crafting and stratification of America's culture, and we were bigoted enough against East Asians to draw up immigration laws basically from scratch. If you were Indian or Arab/Persian, and you'd interacted with and assimilated into predominantly white social settings, I wouldn't begrudge you associating or identifying as such in limited circumstances.
     
  16. apollo33

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    I don't know okay, I don't know that much about what people look like in different parts of India. All I'm doing is drawing on some personal experience because a lot of Indians I've met in Vancouver have told me that they are part European in someway whether it was British or Spanish or Portuguese and some of them can pull off as being white.

    Plus if people in different parts of India look so different, is Indian really a race? if half of the country look completely different from the other half they are not of the same race exactly are they.

    I mean technically Indians are considered to be Caucasians, but in a purely American context they are no longer considered Caucasians. Maybe she checked the box because in another context she is technically "white".

    Race is a weird thing, especially in the US where "Hispanics" is a race in some contexts.
     
  17. Ottomaton

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    I could list half a dozen published genetic studies from the last decade stating the exact opposite. My introduction to this subject was a large genetic study publicised and summarised on NPR.

    I was going to look up and read the study mentioned, but I couldn't find a name or journal for publication in the article. I'm pretty confidant is saying there is no shortage of geneticists who still believe the evidence still supports the split.

    BTW the other DNA for South Asians is supposedly a match for a common ancestor with Aboriginal Australians.
     
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  18. Cohete Rojo

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    I pulled this from the US Census Bureau website:

    So what is an "original people"? Berbers are original to North Africa and the Middle-East. So, conceivably, a blacked skinned US citizen of Berber descent could identify as white for the US census.
     
  19. MojoMan

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    No, it is a nationality.
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Yes Indians are a race. People look different across a continent or subcontinent. Irish don't look like Greeks. They are still considered white across the board.
     

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