It's not a new thing, and yes, you are part of the problem. How does whining about past injustice help things today? All it does is make one group angry at another and further the divide between groups. It makes groups perceive injustice even where no injustice exists and radicalizes people on all sides. Hopefully one day people like you and Dylann Roof will die off so that the rest of the country can move on. Always seeing things through the lens of race helps no one.
Did you just compare to me to Dylann Roof for questioning your lack of an actual solution and any shred of critical reasoning? what is happening in this thread? lmao
That stiff upper lip worked for the Brits to keep their caste system. I'm sure Likes and Email Petitions will work wonders for this and our upcoming generations.
Immature simplification from you. Obama is not blameless in this, due to his role in the Trayvon Martin hysteria that he helped create.
neither are you blameless for this--your moniker certainly inspires me to wish eons of suffering on people because of their skin color :/
Your attempted joke fell flat. My moniker certainly does not inspire suffering on people due to their skin color. It's clear you've lost the argument when you have to resort to that level of attempted humor.
I think we can agree on the media issue. The media will tend to sensationalize things, I mean how long did CNN drag out the missing plane story? It's what they do though. I think though that the reaction to these things is being overplayed. I read his entire manifesto. No way if someone reads that will then blame Obama or anyone else for it. The guy talks about how white people should still be owning slaves, are superior in every way, how integration has not benefited the white race at all...etc etc. The most racist ideas are presented here. He did not get that from any where on TV. No news channel would dare say the things he said. He got that from surfing the internet and posting on racist forums. What part did the media play in it? Well I'm sure when he saw the reactions, the recent stuff in Ferguson and Baltimore that he thought as any racist does "There are those black people again, being unruly." etc. But on the whole the racist groups that exist played the largest role in this. They exist, just like say other islamist extremist groups...preaching their hate on the internet, hoping to persuade young and naive people to join in. How would I quell this? Honestly if Google can't let you search for p*rn unless you are specific to the nth degree, then Google should also ban hate sites to prevent someone's mind being twisted how his was. He's not the only young person to stumble onto these sites. Whether they are Muslim sites, Black power sites, White power sites whatever. I guess my point is if Google is going to block out p*rn searches they may as well do this. I'd rather 13 year old boys look at t*** then stumble onto one of these sites any ways. I'm not a father but I bet most fathers would agree with that. But the overwhelming point is. These groups that are still out there need to be recognized. The fact that some of these politicians took money from this CCC group and "Didn't Know" is lame. Now that they know they should do more than distance themselves from them. They should outright condemn them whenever they are mentioned. The existence of these groups are the problem, I don't think ignoring them and sidestepping them really works. Black people have complained about black on black crime since forever. It's the dumbest argument ever because plenty of black people talk about it. The reason people don't tell the cops is because they are scared for their own lives. Do you realize how gangs and crime work? Most of the people are scared OF the cops in these areas.
In Bobby and li'l t's wingnut universe- Causes of racism: Obama, discussing racism Not causes of racism: the legacy left behind by hundreds of years white supremacy, slavery, and segregation
this isn't an argument. it's my observation on how ridiculous this thread has become. "Metaphors go over his head. DRAX: Nothing goes over my head...my reflexes are too fast, I would catch it."
No. We can use the stars and bars. No one will know what it is and if so choosing to know will have to do some research. But that takes self-determination - which many people do not have. Also, the manner and context which those flags are used may not be the same as erecting a Confederate Memorial on state capitol grounds. I don't view Six Flags as a memorial to any of those six nations. Besides, Six Flags' current logo features no depiction of any of the six nations' flag.
I also read his little manifesto and he cites the Martin case...which means the media coverage of the Martin case, as the event that made him "racially aware", what set the stage for his radicalization. The polarizing response to the Martin case is what pushed him into the arms of hate groups. The media went out of their way to portray that situation as a white vs black issue....despite Zimmerman being Hispanic, i guess in the eyes of some one drop of Caucasian blood instantly makes you "white" and thus racist....but I digress. It's not surprising that there would be fallout from that race baiting circus.....which all would have been averted if he had his mother's last name of Mesa or if Zimmerman's black great grandfather was still alive and prominently displayed on TV. Back to the domestic terrorist though, sure there's a chance that he would have become a racist eventually anyway, but we don't know that. As to the CCC, how many of us really knew who that was before this case? It doesn't sound like a hate group. How would anyone know they were unless you looked into it? If you did look into it and you still took their money....well shame on you for it.
The problem with what the media did with the Martin story is how it was framed and how it would have been framed/ignored with only one minor change, everything else identical. George Zimmerman - evil racist white man that hunts down black people and murders them for sport....major national news story that the president should comment on Jorge Mesa - Guy who shot someone that attacked him, non-story Give him his mother's maiden name and a Spanish version of his first name, and look how much changes.
Now if that was indeed the case, then I'd like for you to explain why we offered our prayers (and tears) to those innocent children who perished at Sandy Hook - none of whom were black. According to your posts, that just doesn't happen - in your reality, a black father cannot emphatize with a white father over the senseless killing of his child. I find it somewhat sad that all you can see is the darkness in people's souls. Now this post CLEARLY shows that you haven't a clue as to what the black church is about. Religion isn't a political calling - rather it is a spiritual calling that enables us to survive the troubles and evil deeds that blacken the hearts and souls of our fellows. For about forever, Wednesday nights have been the time for prayer meetings in the black church. Those people who welcomed Roof with open arms and hearts, that could have been us because we turn no one away during a time of prayer. Yes, I understand all too well that religion can be used to wage war and death - just look at what is happening in the Muslim world right now - but I challenge you to find a black church that preaches the sort of radicalism and violence you are talking about. And before you say it the Black Muslims don't count here because they are a cult and not a true representation of Islam.
Trayvon Martin case to him was about how much coverage it received. He then asked himself why doesn't black on white crime get covered as much? As for the Trayvon case itself, it's been debated to death. I think one of the reasons it exploded beyond local news is because Zimmerman was going to get off without a trial. I personally feel this is the main reason, whether you believe he had a right to lethally defend himself or not. The fact is that a ruckus was raised because he had killed someone and went home that same day. Everything that came after that was like a snowball. If the police had arrested Zimmerman that day and he had went through the legal system properly than I really have a hard time seeing the story exploding the way it did. But one thing is clear to me about Roof. It was more than that. He talked about segregation, about race mixing, about all of this stuff. It wasn't just the Trayvon Martin case. It wasn't just black on white crime, it was about starting a race war. It was about in his mind fighting for his race. If Trayvon Martin didn't do it, then some other thing would have. That's why on the blame meter I put 95% on it on racist groups and the hate they spread over the internet freely and easily. That is where the main blame should be focused.
You also shed light on what your version of "us" is. Again, another person that is part of the problem.
I think the environment that would lead to everyone up in arms about "white man" George Zimmerman shooting a black guy in self defense that wouldn't even notice if "Hispanic man" Jorge Mesa shot a black guy in self defense was part of the problem. The kid got angry about the ingrained racism of society and sought out the wrong kind of role models. When you polarize society, you get extremes on all sides. I put 95% of the blame on the kid himself, after all, everyone is responsible for their own actions, the remaining 5% is split up between those who radicalized him with their propaganda and those who cause the further polarization of society. As to your idea of shutting down a lot of those groups, as I said before, freedom of speech makes that incredibly difficult to do and once you start bending the rules, it's hard to stop.
