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Man kills 9 people at black church

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mr. 13 in 33, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. durvasa

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    No, he's not. :confused:
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    Is that seriously what you got out of that. God help us.

    We will go to the ends of the earth, sacrifice thousands of service members lives, trillions of dollars, sacrifice our own moral principles(torture) to quell a threat that by all empirical measurements is as prevalent as the threat of white supremacists in the continental United States. There is strong cognitive dissonance in this rationality.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Also Kickstarter doesn't allow for raising money for causes.
     
  4. Bandwagoner

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    Is this a serious post? How many white supremacist murders have their been in the last 20 years?
     
  5. fchowd0311

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  6. Rocket River

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    Truer words have never been spoken
    You're Prof X . .. .I'm Magneto!
    LOL!
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    Don't ask how I Died. . . . ask how I Lived!

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  7. Bandwagoner

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    That might be the worst graph I have ever seen. Can you just answer the question?
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    Yes I'm serious. White Supremacism is as prevalent if not more so than Islamic extremism within the United States.

    An this is precisely why Jon Stewart is quite upset:http://www.foxnews.com.
    Look at the front page. One front page article about drug abuse being the primary factor, another about future churches being targeted and another about 'gun free zones' being a target. NOTHING about the rhetoric espoused by the killer.
     
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  9. Bandwagoner

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    The chart lists right wing extremism you are saying white supremacists. The chart also lists 25 (unknown units) of right wing extremism (not white supremacists) in 1995 and 12 or so (unknown units) happening in 2001 of Islamic Extremism.

    you don't see major flaws in this chart and in your use of it? Are you basing this all on the ****ty chart?
     
  10. Major

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    Why?

    Why does only the # of murders matter? If a white extremist burns down a church or does something else, does it not count? If he's caught before he blows something up, do we just pretend it's not a problem? Here's a select few from 2009-2012:

    http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/domestic-extremism-terrorism/c/selected-white-supremacist.html

    It includes a mix of murders, failed bombings, and other planned events.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/...s-killed-more-in-us-than-jihad/article/381055

    34 murders in the name of right wing extremism within the U.S since 9/11
    23 murders in the name of Islamic Jihad within the U.S since 9/11

    According to the New America Foundation.
     
  12. Bandwagoner

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    Do you not see a big flaw in THESE statistics?

    "After they killed 2,977 people and the entire USA went nuts, they haven't really done much"
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    It can be argued that the USA going nuts has generated even more Islamic extremism around the globe.
     
  14. Rocket River

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    I think that conversation starts with 3 numbers
    1. The number of Americans killed by Islamic Terrorist
    2. The number of Islamic Terrorist killed by Americans
    3. The number of Islamic Civilians killed by Americans

    See how those numbers add up
    Alas. . .that is a different Thread

    Rocket River
     
  15. Major

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    Let's say you have:

    Group A committing 10 acts killing 3000 people.
    Group B committing 1000 acts killing 500 people.

    Which is the bigger problem to be addressed, and how would you allocate resources to each? Obviously, Group A here is doing a hell of a lot more damage abroad and has potential to do bigger things, so it's not entirely comparable. But we've also committed well over $1 trillion to dealing with Group A vs something closer to $0 to Group B.
     
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    It definitely can. In fact, many (if not most) people believe that Daesh (ISIS) has been so fervent in publicizing their atrocities in order to try and draw the United States into committing ground troops to the region, so that they can then use that as propaganda for trying to gain more recruits and in trying to unite the Muslim world under their banner. Luckily the U.S. has instead not done that, but is instead using drones and air power to assist the secular and more moderate groups on the ground there (like the YPG and FSA) in being able to push back Daesh. This has worked very well in Northern Syria in the last several months. It is just too bad that the rest of the region does not have troops as stalwart or as democratic as the YPG.
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    People seem to forget that the second worst act of terrorism on US soil was carried out by domestic right wing extremist. Historically there has been much more terrorism by groups like the KKK, Aryan Nation and etc.. Those have been overshadowed by the threat of Islamic terrorism but that doesn't mean that their ideology has disappeared.
     
  18. Amiga

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    I was thinking he was his own barber.
     
  19. Bandwagoner

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    WS = shooting up a church to start a race war

    OKC bombing = blowing up a federal building because janet reno murdered people
     
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