You'd replace McHugh in the rotation when he has multiple really bad starts in a row. Not just 1, following 5 mediocre ones
He's a mop-up/long relief guy. If McHugh had another 8 run 1st, he'd have been in (eventually). You wanting him in today after the first... or the other poster who wanted him in to start period... is pretty short-sighted. McHugh is still clearly a better pitcher than Hernandez, despite your earlier analysis. Also, if it were up to me Hernandez would have been dfa'd awhile ago in favor of another right handed outfilder (which they have now in Santana).
You do know his last start is what contributed to the BULK of that "average". (the other bad start being the one against San Fran).
When did I say to replace him in the 1st inning? I said he shouldnt be starting...because he's been bad for 2 months now. A 6.0 ERA over his last 9 starts is just not going to cut it. Does he have more potential than Hernandez? Of course. Has he given up more runs per inning than Hernandez this year? Yes. If Hernandez gets pulled from the rotation for sucking, then McHugh should play by the same rules.
Read my last post. He had 1 bad start after 5 mediocre ones. During those 5 starts, his ERA was 4.36. Not good...not horrid. But fine. And all 5 games were fairly consistent (already posted before--you dismissed it). So we're going to say that 5 straight starts of mediocrity is worth getting pulled because of 1 blowup after them?
Okay, remove that last start...then we have an ERA just over 5. What's your point? That still is not good.
Guys can someone direct me on how to listen to the game online? I remember being able to listen to the games on A.M. radio stations being broadcast online but that doesn't look to be the case anymore?
A pitcher having a lower ERA than another pitcher means absolutely nothing if his peripheral stats are god-awful compared to the other pitcher.
The last time I remember that being easy to do was 2003 or so. Someone correct me if I'm wrong...but they started blacking out AM radio games forever ago
Ooookay... I guess you're still arguing for benching him... as he throws a quality start in harsh conditions (both heat-wise and altitude wise), with 110+ pitches. Stick with your guns! (also, you really need to consider the "outlier" starts before you start with his cumulative stats... there's really been 2 bad starts surrounded by quality/serviceable ones).
A bare minimum quality start for Collin McHugh. I'll take it, even with the 3-run homer he served up.
Way to battle, Colin. Maybe we can chalk that 1st up to Coors Effect, and this was the start of turning it around.
So basically, he's had a couple bad starts and a bunch of mediocre ones. Even bad pitchers have nice games every now and then. We've hit a point with McHugh where he has failed to pitch well for 2 months. Sorry, that's nothing to try to defend. Moving forward, with Feldman coming back, decisions need to be made.
Nah, his ERA was 4.34 before the last start. You remove the bad San Fran start and his ERA is below 4. You take into account last year, and that's about where he is (mid 3-4 ERA)... he was pretty damn good today... he deserves to stay in the rotation despite your expert analysis.
That's not what this argument was about at all. You suggested Hernandez was good and should replace McHugh immediately. Separately, I'm willing to wait and see on the Feldman decision. If VV can get through 6 IP consistently at this level, I'll be good with him starting on this team the rest of the way--otherwise I think he probably leaves the rotation unless there's a clear need elsewhere. Alternatively, we could go 6-man to preserve VV and McCullers innings-count so that they're available in the playoffs. Never said McHugh is invincible from getting bounced. Just said this is ridiculous overreaction to say Hernandez should replace him.
