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[Soul Man News] NAACP Leader Outed As WHITE By Her Parents

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  1. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Dave Chappelle racial draft expert.
     
  2. Bandwagoner

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    with her leadership experience she could be elizabeth warren's running mate.
     
  3. Air Langhi

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    White Black Supremacist
     
  4. Mr. Brightside

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    Not sure why this is a big deal. White people have been acting "colored" for a long time now. There is no civil unrest when white people opt for tanning and spray on tanning. Sometimes they are made fun of it is done in excess like the Jersey Shore kids. I see no problem with this lady wanting to be black. We allow Bruce Jenner to be a woman, so why can't this lady be black and beautiful?
     
  5. pmac

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    Brightside,
    What's your hit rate on those type of comments. How often do people fall for it and get all riled up?
     
  6. Kilgore Trout

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    Working for me in my bedroom? :grin:

    But srsly though, she can get it.
     
  8. mtbrays

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  9. DFWRocket

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    Well, for one she lied about her race on her job application. That alone is grounds for being fired at any company - Of course thats up to the NAACP's discretion. I have no problem with her "identifying" with another race, but if you use false pretenses for personal gain (which is what she did) - then its a problem.
     
  10. hotballa

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    If men can wear girl's clothing, give themselves a female name, and identify themselves as female, why can't a white person wear urban clothing, call themselves Shananay, and identify themselves as black? things that make you go hmmm

    So we are saying it's ok to pretend that someone has a uterus, but not ok for them to pretend they are from another culture? oh SJWs, please enlighten me
     
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    damn...I cannot unsee this
     
  13. moestavern19

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    The argument "Why would anyone willingly want to become black" is really a telling statement to how the black race is still viewed in this country.
     
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    Not really -- it's more of a question of why would anybody want to change their racial identity, period.
     
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    Obviously to enroll in a predominantly black university and receive access to scholarship money.
     
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    So, you're saying these two statements are the same?

    1. "Why would anyone willingly want to become black"
    2. "Why would anyone willingly want to become white"
     
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    Obviously to get an extra muscle so they can jump out of the gym.
     
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    Opinion Op-Ed
    Op-Ed Why Rachel Dolezal would want to pass as a black woman



    By FREDRIK DEBOER

    Why would Rachel Dolezal, whose parents are Caucasian, say she was black?

    It's hard to think of a more bizarre story, or one more representative of contemporary America, than that of Rachel Dolezal. Dolezal is an academic and activist who represented herself as African American for many years, earning a degree in Africana studies, even ascending to the position of president of the Spokane, Wash., chapter of the NAACP.

    As police killings show, the African American community needs more change
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    Dolezal's parents, however, have recently made matters uncomfortable for her, telling the media that she is in fact Caucasian and showing photos of her as a younger woman with blond hair and blue eyes. The NAACP is standing behind Dolezal, stressing that “racial identity is not a qualifying criteria or disqualifying criteria for NAACP leadership.” But there are additional questions regarding, among other things, her position on a local police council. When applying to the Spokane police ombudsman commission, she indicated a racial category of black, which if untrue would violate the city ethics code.

    Dolezal, for her part, acknowledged that her biological parents are two self-identified Caucasians, but has thus far refused to elaborate.

    The story has predictably been catnip to our pundit class, provoking commentary ranging from the outraged to the sympathetic to the amused. Almost everyone, however, has been shocked — shocked that someone would act this way and shocked that someone could pull it off. I am shocked that people are shocked. Rachel Dolezal was inevitable. We made her.


    Human behaviors are the product of incentives. We repeat behaviors that are rewarded. And clearly, Dolezal believed she would find rewards in representing herself as a black woman. That statement might seem strange, given the continuing destructive power of racism in America. In material terms, the condition of the average black American has actually gotten worse in the last 35 years, post-racial rhetoric to the contrary. Racism and white supremacy are real and powerful in America in 2015.

    Why, then, would someone try to occupy that position of oppression? The answer has a lot to do with the spaces that Dolezal had advanced in: political activism and academia.

    It happens that I've spent most of my life in those spaces. And in those spaces, a set of social norms have created direct incentives for Dolezal's behavior — and forbidden anyone from checking up on her story.

    We repeat behaviors that are rewarded. And clearly, [Rachel] Dolezal believed she would find rewards in representing herself as a black woman.
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    First, there is a series of dubious and problematic presumptions made about black people that, while ultimately unhealthy, might have appeared attractive to Dolezal. The notion of black people generally and black women specifically as inherently more authentic, more wise, or more connected to nature are alive and well in many academic and activist contexts.


    Though many race theorists have convincingly argued that such stereotypes are actually connected to the most noxious attitudes about race, and ultimately perpetuate racial inequality rather than combat it, for an individual white person working in those spaces, blackness might appear to be the kind of thing you might want to borrow — particularly given that you wouldn't have experienced a lifetime of petty bigotry and major discrimination. Indeed, part of what makes this story so offensive to many lies in the fact that Dolezal has borrowed a racial identity without suffering from the harsh consequences of American racism.

    She might not have attempted such a deception if not for another aspect of academic and activist culture: the notion that race does not equate to skin color, complexion or other physiological markers. I have attended many academic conferences where speakers have passionately argued against the notion of someone “looking black,” that you can ever tell by looking at someone what their racial identity might be.

    I have no opinion on this issue; it's not my question to answer. But with that kind of social taboo in place, there was little to fear for Dolezal in representing herself as black; only the belated attention of her parents brought the truth to light. Nor did she have to worry that anyone would dig into her claims that she'd received hate mail and was the victim of hate crimes — which are also now in doubt.

    Who, exactly, would feel confident in questioning the claims of a self-identified victim of a hate crime? Particularly when that person was serving as the head of a regional NAACP branch? The outraged tweets write themselves. Dolezal was no dummy. She knew how these cultures operate. She knew she was protected.

    In the end, perhaps Dolezal simply believed the convictions of her academic culture a little too much. After all, we on the left have insisted for years that the various demographic categories we are placed into are merely social constructs, the creation of human assumption and human prejudice. That race is a social construct is a stance that brooks no disagreement in left-wing spaces.

    It should not surprise us, then, when an individual chooses to create a different racial identity for herself. I'm not saying that's a legitimate reading of social construct arguments. I'm not saying I condone her behavior; like most people, I find it offensive. I'm simply saying that this behavior is inevitable given the current social and linguistic codes of the worlds in which Dolezal lives. We created those incentives and so we've created this behavior.

    Fredrik deBoer is a writer and academic. He lives in Indiana.

    Follow the Opinion section on Twitter @latimesopinion and Facebook

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0614-deboer-rachel-dolezal-20150614-story.html
     
  20. krosfyah

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    This woman was not born black nor was the raised in black society. As an adult, she made a personal choice. Which is fine but very deceptive.

    If Jenner had been a cross dresser and worked for some sort of women's rights advocacy group, the story would turn out different. But Jenner didn't. He changed his identity and is going about his own business and not telling people he's anything other than transgender. Big difference.
     

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