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[Game of Thrones] Season Five

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Commodore, Jul 27, 2014.

  1. Dubious

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    I'm a dissapoint.

    You guys are knitpicking details when this show is visually stunning and continually shocking.

    The Battle of Winterfell was great cinematography, Danny and the Dothraki was stunning and unexpected, and really, no one wants to talk about the confused boner scene? Cersei's naked walk of shame that went on sooo long, I felt ashamed for ogling her bush. That is super strong TV, unbelieveable. I love it even fast forwarding through the gore.

    Stannis lost because he put all his faith in the word of a woman. Well a known duplicitous woman whom you can never guess her agenda. He thought up to the end that he had an unbeatable ace in the whole. That was his shocked face when nothing happened. I think Melisandre intended to end the Baratheon line all along. I thought she was coming to Blackwatch because she knew Jon Snow had royal blood, but guess not.

    Spoiler: (I don't know anything, have not read the books) Dany saves Westeros from the White Walkers with Dragons and establishes an egalitarian socially democratic utopia. Summer returns.
     
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  2. justtxyank

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    Nah, she really believed in Stannis. You could see serious disappointment and doubt cross her face when the news about the sellswords deserting was given in front of her. She was crushed.
     
  3. JayGoogle

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    If Jaime turns the ship around and the execute Ellaria do you think that helps that Myrcella is dead? Do you think the Lannisters will forget that? No, they will not. Just as she will not forget what the Lannisters have done to her family, they will not forget this either. The marriage would be the only thing holding that alliance together which Doran realized.

    If they execute Trystan it still starts a war. Which is all she really wanted was revenge. Yeah it means the death of their prince but people that want revenge don't really seem to understand that getting revenge means that others will want revenge for your revenge...it is a neverending cycle until someone decides to forget the past (Doran) and tries to forge a new peace.

    3rd scenario still she wins in her mind. She got her revenge. Remember this is a woman who watched Oberyn get his head exploded in King's Landing as Oberyn tried to avenge another of his kin. So again, she's just happy to have killed an important Lannister at this point.

    All in all, she is a woman that just wanted her revenge. That was her endgame. Doran made his threat pretty clear to her so she knew it was sacrificing her life. That's just how much she valued her revenge.
     
  4. bobloblaw

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    I couldn't pay much attention to Cersei's bush/body because of how obvious it was that her face was digitally placed on that body. It was alright nudity but clearly digitally modified and kind of distracting. They should have just stuck with the above the shoulder and ass shots.

    Damn nudity clauses (she was also pregnant when filming).

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  5. Space Ghost

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    Most of your complaints is what makes GOT so great. I understand some of the story lines get pretty boring, but some of it has to do with converting from a massive volume and condensing it into TV.
    Personally I think too many people are used to the feel-good repetitive TV. The good guy doesnt always win. Reality is very graphic. This is suppose to be a 7-10 season single story, not a single season wrap-up, rinse and repeat until the series becomes a complete joke.
     
  6. sealclubber1016

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    I really do not understand that myself. The scene dragged on far too long, and they wasted CGI.

    Seriously, after about the 10th shame I got the point. Most of the scenes in this episode felt a little rushed and could have used some of the time they dedicated to this.
     
  7. Dubious

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    I like my fantasies with digital enhancements. That was one b****'in bod.

    The point of the length was to get past the salaciousness and force the emotion of humiliation on the viewer. If it had been short we would just look at the boobs.
     
  8. dobro1229

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    So some initial thoughts -

    -Jon Snow can't be dead from a storytelling standpoint. If the showrunners built up the Lord of Light resurrections (Thoros of Mir from season 3), and put Melisandre AND Davos (don't underrestimate some role here) just yards away from Jon during his murder for no freaking reason it would pretty much be the showrunners purposefully throwing the fans off just to troll the audience.... seems unlikely.

    -The Dorne/Snakes/Marcella poisoning is interesting to me mostly to see how Dorne (Doran and Tristane) react against the Snakes. We know that Jamie, and Cersei are going to react negatively and associate everyone in Dorne with her attempted murder (not 100% sure she's dead but it doesn't look good). More than likely Doran and Tristane wanted nothing to do with hurting a Lannister much less Marcella.... an innocent bystander. Even Oberyn under that situation probably would have used common sense to go after the actual people responsible. At least D&D created somewhat of an enemy out of the Sand Snakes where we won't mind as viewers at least seeing them brought down at some point.

    Yes I agree that Dorne was kind of a huge mess this year, and the Snakes were pretty B-Movie ridiculous, but I'm at least interested to see where this goes.

    -Dany back with the Khalessar.... grrreeeaattt... So not only has she gone nowhere she's gone full circle once again. However the strengths of the other characters back in Mereen give Dany's story life everytime they are on screen. Season 6 will need to be a season where Dany does something to significantly allign her plot with the major arch of the story which is the collision of ice and fire. Sure they could kill her off and be another "what could have been" Greek tragedy, but they are so far along now with so few major players left that its tough to see anyone besides one of or both Jon, and Dany being the primary catalyst for the final story arch.

    -Stannis... I thought ended with a great classic Greek tragedy storyline. This is a guy who has been told for some time and believes that he has a destiny, and on his grave finds out that he's just another human being who has to deal with the consequences of his actions... NOT a god's action. He for all purposes was responsible for murdering his own brother, and daughter. Whatever his reasoning was for destiny, and being this savior he believed he was... he was the one who had to deal with the fallout.

    -Theon and Sansa- small victory in the finale, but more interested to see them on the run from trouble rather than just being tortured. I feel like they could have released them episodes ago, and even though they'd still be in danger from Ramsey, it could have been just as effective to show how terrible Ramsey is, and created just as much interest in where Sansa and Reek are going... I guess they needed to keep Sansa there in order to keep Brienne there but what ever.

    Cersei- Did she just get her Jamie moment where she's going to have redemption or will this fuel her to be even more ruthless? Robert Strong is a pretty interesting tool now at her disposal. The news of Marcella and the Bolton's turning their backs on the crown will make the tiff with the Tyrell's pretty insignificant. Will Strong be sent to Dorne or Winterfell first to wreck shop? My guess is the Vale makes a play against the Boltons (with maybe an alliance with the Greyjoys?), and Strong goes to Dorne to get justice for Marcella. There is also a possibility of Robert Strong going to Mereen to try and kill Tyrian who was responsible for sending Marcella to Dorne to begin with.


    All in all... really good season with a TON of plot... maybe too much plot for such a short season. I don't know that I'll ever be looking forward to a TV show coming back more than Season 6 of GOT. With little to no books or internet spoilers to research to find out what happens next, we are totally in the dark with no idea what is going to happen these last two seasons.
     
  9. BiGGieStuFF

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    This is what I'm thinking. It's common for their fighters to use the poison on their blades/spears so it's very possible Trystane has the antidote. It'll just be a matter of getting to her in time before she dies.
     
  10. FishBulb913

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    So assuming Sansa and Theon live, they would head straight to Castle Black in hopes of finding Jon right? Where else might they go?
     
  11. Dubious

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    Isn't the gold knight Frankenstein Mountain?
    Isn't that who has been under the sheets with the mad scientist? He had the body and was trying to re-animate it?
     
  12. bobloblaw

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    True. They didn't need to get such a giant titted lady though if they didn't want us to look. Here's a more realistic portrayal of Lena Headey's boobs:

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    Yes. The Mountain returns!
     
  13. sealclubber1016

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    I have a feeling GRRM is using the Dothraki and being away from power as a means to have Dany bond with Drogon, and get her back on track towards her ultimate goal. Of all the things about the last 2 books that irritated me, the fact that I've waited 15 years, and she's still not in f**king Westeros was the worst. In fact, she's gone backwards.

    Jon is coming back,there's far too many narrative reasons for him to be revived, the only thing that bothers me is 10 months of people b****ing about how they kill off all the good characters.
     
  14. KDJ3

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    Maybe I missed something...but who the heck is Robert Strong?
     
  15. shastarocket

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    Guys, I would still recommend treading lightly when it comes to reading about the books online. Most of the storylines are definitely caught up to (some have even exceeded) where the books are. However, there are still a couple of characters and (mid-major) stories that can make an appearance.
     
  16. Dubious

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    yeah, those won't show up on screen, won't sway as she walks. They had to be prominent and pendulous for effect
     
  17. shastarocket

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    That is just the book name for The (frankenstein) Mountain
     
  18. juicystream

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    They could run into Brienne (who is definitely there) or Baelish (who was supposedly going to attack the winner of the Bolton/Stannis battle).
     
  19. TheresTheDagger

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    So, 5 seasons in and I think I'm ready to rate the seasons from best to worst.

    #1 Season 1. I just loved the twists and turns and learning this wasn't going to be just another television show with predictable plot lines. Also, incredible opening scene and the episode 9 which can't be forgotten.

    #2 Season 5. Slow buildup, but the last 3 episodes are all in the top 10 of the entire show so far with probably the least anticipated death of a major character so far (and that's saying something)

    #3 Season 3 The Red Wedding (at least at that point) was probably the most shocking and unforgetable moment of television in its history..and for that alone it deserves its place at #3.

    #4 Season 4 Had some excellent episodes especially Episode 9 with the fight at the wall, and of course the introduction of Oberyn.

    #5 Season 2 The Battle of the Blackwater was outstanding and the buildup prior as well. But much of the rest of that season has faded away...at least for me.

    All the seasons are excellent television however. Someday in the future when its all done, I'll binge watch it all over again. :)
     
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